LGBT Iftaar to bring together London’s Muslim and LGBT communities Watch

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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3529636.html

Great idea to bring together communities and show that London is united and to challenge Islamophobia. It will also show that Muslims and LGBT people do not need to be at opposing sides.
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Iftar is for Muslims and is an Islamic event. Especially calling it a 'gay' iftar is quite offensive to an event that means a lot to Muslims around the world.
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(Original post by desaf1)
Iftar is for Muslims and is an Islamic event. Especially calling it a 'gay' iftar is quite offensive to an event that means a lot to Muslims around the world.
many members of the Ummah are gay, so why should they not be allowed to have a special day ?
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Excellent news. However, sad reality is that many Muslims, including many on this website, will denounce such events as being unIslamic, blasphemous and sinful. Does matter though, the tide will turn, with or without these people.
Oh it does matter? Thanks a lot for caring, so glad you agree!
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Iftar is for Muslims and is an Islamic event. Especially calling it a 'gay' iftar is quite offensive to an event that means a lot to Muslims around the world.
Well I guess that's all the reward in Ramadan gone. What a shame.
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Iftar is for Muslims and is an Islamic event. Especially calling it a 'gay' iftar is quite offensive to an event that means a lot to Muslims around the world.
So 'gay' people are 'offensive' to you? Not exactly showing inclusion like this event aims to do?
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Iftar is for Muslims and is an Islamic event. Especially calling it a 'gay' iftar is quite offensive to an event that means a lot to Muslims around the world.
Many Muslims around the world are gay and iftar is an important event for them too. You are essentially saying iftar isn't for Muslims who are gay. Your unwillingness to accept their sexuality is offensive to them.
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Well I guess that's all the reward in Ramadan gone. What a shame.
So associating with gay people, who you don't know have actually committed gay acts or just self-identify as being attracted to the same-sex, means your divine score goes down?
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Many Muslims around the world are gay and iftar is an important event for them too. You are essentially saying iftar isn't for Muslims who are gay. Your unwillingness to accept their sexuality is offensive to them.
They are #notTrueMuslims I guess
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Just let them share a meal man, you make us look bad when you show a lack of willingness to integrate
There's a difference between "integrating" and doing something that is clearly wrong in Islam.
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So associating with gay people, who you don't know have actually committed gay acts or just self-identify as being attracted to the same-sex, means your divine score goes down?
Ok serious question here, no hate, but what are they achieving by calling it gay? Surely they're the ones that are separating themselves in this case. When we have Eid parties we don't label ourselves as anything so why are they doing this?
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Ok serious question here, no hate, but what are they achieving by calling it gay? Surely they're the ones that are separating themselves in this case. When we have Eid parties we don't label ourselves as anything so why are they doing this?
What's wrong with calling it gay?

The whole point is apparently bringing together Muslims and LGBT people, hence the title being something related to LGBT people 'gay' and something related to Muslims 'Iftaar' - combine the two and you get 'gay iftaar'.
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Well I guess that's all the reward in Ramadan gone. What a shame.
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There's a difference between "integrating" and doing something that is clearly wrong in Islam.
Whats wrong with sitting down for a meal with them tbh?
They are talking about just the eating part?
even if you disagree, a meal is not that deep
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There's a difference between "integrating" and doing something that is clearly wrong in Islam.
I thought it was gay acts which were wrong as opposed to simply being gay, i.e. attracted to the same sex?

Out of interest, why do mosques 'integrate' with homeless drug users and alcoholics but cannot integrate with gay people by your logic?
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What's wrong with calling it gay?

The whole point is apparently bringing together Muslims and LGBT people, hence the title being something related to LGBT people 'gay' and something related to Muslims 'Iftaar' - combine the two and you get 'gay iftaar'.
Ok I misunderstood that and thought it was talking about Eid my bad.

But iftar is even worse especially in the month of Ramadan.
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Really don't understand why people are offended by this lol
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many members of the Ummah are gay, so why should they not be allowed to have a special day ?
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Whats wrong with sitting down for a meal with them tbh? They are talking about just the eating part? even if you disagree, a meal is not that deep
In Islam homosexuality is forbidden.
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(Original post by Iridocyclitis)
I thought it was gay acts which were wrong as opposed to simply being gay, i.e. attracted to the same sex?

Out of interest, why do mosques 'integrate' with homeless drug users and alcoholics but cannot integrate with gay people by your logic?
Are you really trying to compare homosexuality and homeless drug users?
We are taught to help those in need and most homeless drug users have no one to help quell there addiction, But homosexuals willingly choose to do such acts.
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Iftar is for Muslims and is an Islamic event. Especially calling it a 'gay' iftar is quite offensive to an event that means a lot to Muslims around the world.
This is exactly the kind of attitude that shows muslims will never accept homosexuals
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(Original post by Iridocyclitis)
I thought it was gay acts which were wrong as opposed to simply being gay, i.e. attracted to the same sex?

Out of interest, why do mosques 'integrate' with homeless drug users and alcoholics but cannot integrate with gay people by your logic?
Same sex attraction is also sinful. Of course we are all sinners. We've all lied and disrespected people and whatnot.
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