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need help with a Q on OCR Chains, Rings and Spectroscopy 2002 Jan.

I'll link to the paper itself incase I haven't explained it correctly, but the general gist of the question is that glycine has a much higher melting point than ethanoic acid. Which I get, sure, zwitter ions, etc.

but one of the points on trhe mark scheme just doesn't make sense to me. the last mark on there says this:

"any comment on why hydroxyethanoic acid is lower e.g. H-bonding holds crystals together"

now, as far as I understood it, both of these molecules should form hydrogen bonds...so I really am having trouble. I thought that hydrogen bonding just happened when there was an electronegative element bonded to a hydrogen?

I drew an incredibly crude drawing of what I thought hydrogen bonding, but I have to warn you...I'm not overstating it at all when I use the words "incredibly crude". It's pretty shocking.

links to the paper and mark scheme:

http://www.thepaperbank.co.uk/getpaper.php?paper=papers%2FAS-A+Levels%2FChemistry%2FChains+Rings+and+Spectroscopy%2F2814_2002_jan_p.pdf - Mark Scheme
http://www.thepaperbank.co.uk/getpaper.php?paper=papers%2FAS-A+Levels%2FChemistry%2FChains+Rings+and+Spectroscopy%2F2814_2002_jan_w.pdf - The paper itself

picture is attached...I think...
Reply 1
in glycine, the zwitterions are held together by relatively strong ionic interactions, whereas in hydroxyethanoic acid the moleculles are only held together by weaker hydgrogen bonds. hope this helps.
Reply 2
so there isn't any h-bonding in glycine?
Reply 3
if there is any, it'll be negligible compared with the ionic bonding between (-NH3)+ and (CO2)-
Reply 4
ah, okay...fair enough. that's what I originally understood of the zwitterion thing but the mark scheme threw me off completely.

thanks for the help.

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