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NASA engineer admits they can't get past the Van Allen Belts

Youtube: NASA engineer admits they can't get past the Van Allen Belts

This video released by NASA about the upcoming Orion space exploration craft shows a NASA scientist admitting that they still haven't worked out how to properly shield the spacecraft from the radiation emitted by the Van Allen Belts.

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LOL what a load of crap
How do you know the person in the video is a NASA engineer? Just because someone says something doesn't mean it is true. Trump says he is a great President for example.
OP's title is misleading, but the actual bulk of the post about how NASA doesn't really know how to protect astronauts from radiation isn't completely wrong either. It's no secret that NASA doesn't really know how to shield astronauts from radiation in a practical manor.

In fact, there's even an article on NASA's website that implies they have no real solution to combating radiation on spaceflight other than a panic room of sorts for radiation storms...
Why is this a surprise to anybody? Is science education so bad?

NASA knows how to shield astronauts. It simply cannot afford the weight and fuel implications in most solutions, and needs to find new ways to protect the astronauts that are less heavy, more practical and affordable.
Original post by baker'sdozen24
Youtube: NASA engineer admits they can't get past the Van Allen Belts

This video released by NASA about the upcoming Orion space exploration craft shows a NASA scientist admitting that they still haven't worked out how to properly shield the spacecraft from the radiation emitted by the Van Allen Belts.


This is absolute nightmare news folks. How are we ever going to get to the moon if we can't get past the Van Allen belt?
Original post by Drummond
This is absolute nightmare news folks. How are we ever going to get to the moon if we can't get past the Van Allen belt?


Men have been past the belts without problem. The problem lies in being outside the magnetosphere for the long period necessary for getting to Mars.
Original post by Drummond
This is absolute nightmare news folks. How are we ever going to get to the moon if we can't get past the Van Allen belt?
so, you really believe all these absurdities about astronauts actually trying to reach the moon and programmes being designed for that ?

how can you believe that US astronauts were ever planned to leave even just their sitting room (not to speak about reaching the Van Allen Belt) ?

how gullible can you get ? stop believing everything you read on your fake media controlled by Zionist Templars and other Trilateral Globalist Remainers ...

best
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Original post by Good bloke
Men have been past the belts without problem. The problem lies in being outside the magnetosphere for the long period necessary for getting to Mars.


Yeah but even if we put these spacemen in lead suits and make the space rocket out of lead, will it not be too heavy? And how do we get these spaceman back out of the space rocket to a safe distance when they land without them becoming exposed? Surely we would need the teleport?
Original post by Good bloke
Men have been past the belts without problem. The problem lies in being outside the magnetosphere for the long period necessary for getting to Mars.


No man has ever been more than 300 miles above the earth (except in the Apollo missions, which went 250 000 miles above the earth.)
Original post by Drummond
Yeah but even if we put these spacemen in lead suits and make the space rocket out of lead, will it not be too heavy? And how do we get these spaceman back out of the space rocket to a safe distance when they land without them becoming exposed? Surely we would need the teleport?


That's exactly the problem of trips to Mars you can ignore on a trip to the Moon. (Though some lunar astronauts claimed they suffered brain damage etc.)
Original post by mariachi
so, you really believe all these absurdities about astronauts actually trying to reach the moon and programmes being designed for that ?

how can you believe that US astronauts were ever planned to leave even just their sitting room (not to speak about reaching the Van Allen Belt) ?

how gullible can you get ? stop believing everything you read on your fake media controlled by Zionist Templars and other Trilateral Globalist Remainers ...

best



What do you reckon? lmao.
Original post by curfew333
(except in the Apollo missions, which went 250 000 miles above the earth.)


And so went through the belts, or at least the inner one completely and part of the outer one.
320 manned flights to date, 32 deaths, including those in space-related training. Not good odds. And that is without big radiation problems.
Original post by PTMalewski
That's exactly the problem of trips to Mars you can ignore on a trip to the Moon. (Though some lunar astronauts claimed they suffered brain damage etc.)


Does this radiation become more severe the closer we are to the earth or the further away we get?
Original post by Drummond
Does this radiation become more severe the closer we are to the earth or the further away we get?


Most of us on Earth can remove the tinfoil, though not all, it seems.
Original post by Good bloke
Most of us on Earth can remove the tinfoil, though not all, it seems.


Its more comfortable to have tinfoil than lead.
Original post by Drummond
Its more comfortable to have tinfoil than lead.


I see. I'll have to take your word for it as I have not tried either.
Original post by Drummond
Does this radiation become more severe the closer we are to the earth or the further away we get?


Why not to reading about it.

it's not the problem how far we are (tough there are distances more and less dangerous) but how long will we stay there.
If you stay outside Van Allen belts a couple of days, you will take as much radiation as you would get on Earth's surface in a couple of years. It's not too healthy, but it will not kill you, and there is still a good chance that you can reach very decent age.
Staying there for years is another story. The Marsian astronauts will be vulnerable to cancer and brain damages. However they should be able to live for many years.

I remember that staying on "the edge" of Van Allen belts would get you killed in two weeks. Apollos got through them in two hours.
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Original post by PTMalewski
Why not to reading about it.

it's not the problem how far we are (tough there are distances more and less dangerous) but how long will we stay there.
If you stay outside Van Allen belts a couple of days, you will take as much radiation as you would get on Earth's surface in a couple of years. It's not too healthy, but it will not kill you, and there is still a good chance that you can reach very decent age.
Staying there for years is another story. The Marsian astronauts will be vulnerable to cancer and brain damages. However they should be able to live for many years.

I remember that staying on "the edge" of Van Allen belts would get you killed in two weeks. Apollos got through them in two hours.


A few more questions.

1) Will the space rocket be compressed with compressed air? Or will the spacemen be required to go under air from a cylinder?
2) What temperature is the atmosphere?
3) When this atmosphere gets penetrated by the space rocket, will they then be exposed to the highest levels of radiation?
4) What depth do the gamma rays from the beta emitters penetrate?
5) How much compressed air are they taking with them? And how are they storing it? And where are they storing it?
6) What happens when they run out of air?

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