Oxbridge 'over-recruits from eight schools'

Oxford and Cambridge universities should be turned into museums and charities. I don't believe they have any place in a 21st century meritocratic British society. For centuries, these universities have divided British society by promoting a 'them Vs us' approach to education. This is wrong. Education is about inclusively, not exclusivity. Oxbridge have limited economic growth. An increasing number of young people fail to reach their potential because these universities promote social inequality, a corrosive British class system, institutional racism, and nepotism, all methods they use to protect 'white privilege' and sustain the British class system and thus their existence. Post-Brexit Britain needs a strong economy, and Oxbridge must reform and promote an inclusive environment to achieve this.

This is kinda the problem. If all the really smart kids go to Oxbridge, because of how the university is set up, it changes them into people who believe they are better than other people (because of the environment and the people they are surrounded by).

You use the words "meritocratic" yet are compketely blind to the fact that as far as this philosophy goes, Oxbridge are the biggest proponents of not and are the only two universities where you really have to be interested in your subject and have a depth of knowledge that is genuine in order to get in.

How about we bring back the polytechnics which actually provided useful skills instead of useless media degrees and only keep the best if the best universities for those who want to study their subject sincerely?

These people graduate and get given high paying jobs simply for having attended Oxbridge. Therefore, they become 'upper middle class' and believe they're better than everyone else. This is how Oxbridge sustains the British class system.

Evidence? Didn't think so. Oxbridge does so much to encourage applicants from underrepresented groups - more than other universities, IMO. They have to do this because of the uninformed opinions of people like you.

That's not really the case. I'd say the vast majority of people go to Oxbridge for its reputation and status, at least at undergraduate level. These people graduate and get given high paying jobs simply for having attended Oxbridge. Therefore, they become 'upper middle class' and believe they're better than everyone else. This is how Oxbridge sustains the British class system.

Well they are better than them is a certain respect, this will always be the case as some humans will always bettet than others whether though nature or nurture.

Yes I agree. Though I think those who went to Oxbridge all had to work their balls off to get the entry requirements to get in. I can see it as more of a bragging type of thing, I could imagine graduates saying "I'm better than you since I went Oxford". Don't get me wrong though, I myself would love to apply next yr to Oxford when I'm in Yr 13 but I don't go to any of these "Posh Schools", I go to a state school which have done kinda bad judging by Ofsted reports

Yes I agree. Though I think those who went to Oxbridge all had to work their balls off to get the entry requirements to get in. I can see it as more of a bragging type of thing, I could imagine graduates saying "I'm better than you since I went Oxford". Don't get me wrong though, I myself would love to apply next yr to Oxford when I'm in Yr 13 but I don't go to any of these "Posh Schools", I go to a state school which have done kinda bad judging by Ofsted reports

'Quantify' better? The vast majority of applications to Oxbridge already have the required AAA / AA*A* entry requirements. Should they, then, be given a place? According to Oxbridge admissions tutors, no they should not. They fail the interview stage because 'subjectivity' comes into play. The admissions tutors discriminate their ethnicity, accent, background, appearance -- all things which do not quantify intelligence. Therefore, the boundaries are blurred. Result: Oxbridge can remain a bastion of white priveldge.

Solution: the names of all applicants who meet the entry requirements should be put into a hat, and if their name is drawn from the hat, they get a place. This is the only fair system that eliminates subjective bias. Fair. Legit.

'Quantify' better? The vast majority of applications to Oxbridge already have the required AAA / AA*A* entry requirements. Should they, then, be given a place? According to Oxbridge admissions tutors, no they should not. They fail the interview stage because 'subjectivity' comes into play. The admissions tutors discriminate their ethnicity, accent, background, appearance -- all things which do not quantify intelligence. Therefore, the boundaries are blurred. Result: Oxbridge can remain a bastion of white priveldge.

Solution: the names of all applicants who meet the entry requirements should be put into a hat, and if their name is drawn from the hat, they get a place. This is the only fair system that eliminates subjective bias. Fair. Legit.

'Quantify' better? The vast majority of applications to Oxbridge already have the required AAA / AA*A* entry requirements. Should they, then, be given a place? According to Oxbridge admissions tutors, no they should not.

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Oxbridge selects on academice ability and potential. 'A' level predicted grades don't do that well enoguh, nor do they show who would do best in the tutorial system.


What an outragious claim. Again, you have zero evidence.

People have to fail at interview, as there aren't enough places for everyone. Most other universities select without even talking to the candidates - do you really prefer that?!


Troll

It is impossible to 'fail' an interview.
They do not gauge ability like the admission test does.
Interviews are there to intimidate the applicant, expose their weaknesses and fail them -- IF they do not fit the mould that is middle class South-East England. Look at the admissions statistics, 10 out of 32 Oxford colleges did not award a place to a single black British pupil with the required A-levels in 2015. The numbers speak for themselves.

That's true.. Cambridge DO cater for those from disadvantaged student, more so than Oxford but they still both allow those from these backgrounds who reach the entry requirements to get a scholarship etc.

It is impossible to 'fail' an interview.
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Interviews are there to intimidate the applicant, expose their weaknesses and fail them --

You are contradicting yourself... (and wrong).