Oxbridge 'over-recruits from eight schools'

You do realise this guy is a troll.

Anyone who uses the phrase "white privilege" unironically shouldnt be taken seriously

And currently considering applying to Cambridge for postgrad...
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5205742&p=80425332&page=8&highlight=#post80425332

Welp

probably didn't get into Oxbridge first time round and is possibly non-white

but instead of accepting they weren't good enough, they will use the race card and demand "names to be pulled out of a hat" to avoid bias

And then, to avoid racial bias, a hat for each race .. where their definition of race gets them their own hat.

If you meet the entry requirements, APPLY. Do not believe the rubbish that there is a preference for Public schoolsa- there isn't. Oxford needs more qualified state school applicants - they can only offer them places if they apply! I did.

Thanks for giving me more confidence to apply. I should be able to get the requirements to do computer science (1A*, 2As ) but I'll also need to do the MAT...

And currently considering applying to Cambridge for postgrad...
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5205742&p=80425332&page=8&highlight=#post80425332

Welp

probably didn't get into Oxbridge first time round and is possibly non-white

but instead of accepting they weren't good enough, they will use the race card and demand "names to be pulled out of a hat" to avoid bias

And then, to avoid racial bias, a hat for each race .. where their definition of race gets them their own hat.

Private school students typically score around half a standard deviation (7.5 points) higher on IQ tests than state school students, at the age of 17-18. Correspondingly, they do better, on average, in their GCSEs and A-Levels, and almost certainly do better in the aptitude and admissions tests deployed by Oxbridge as well as in their rigorous interview process. Thus, private school students are bound to be overrepresented at Oxbridge.

It's likely that high-achieving state school students - and high-achieving students from disadvantaged backgrounds - are less likely to apply to Oxbridge than high-achieving private school students. Yet, Oxbridge already carries out extensive outreach to those from disadvantaged backgrounds to encourage them to apply.

The BBC article states that "high-achieving independent school pupils were twice as likely as state school pupils to apply to Oxford and Cambridge, even with the same ability and predicted grades", yet I couldn't find anything as explicit as this in the report. The report did, however, state that "just 25% of state school students with grades A*A*A and above apply to Oxford, compared to 37% of such students from private schools." Of course, part of this difference could be due to state school students not believing that they have the right GCSE grades to apply to Oxford, but it seems likely that a large proportion is due to different attitudes to Oxbridge among state and private school students.

Oxbridge also take into account contexual data in admissions. They could go further and explicitly lower entry requirements for those from disadvantaged backgrounds, but they would first have to study - and take into account already existing findings on - the degree to which academic achievement is down to coming from a "privileged background". The fact is that genetic differences play a far greater role in explaining differences in academic achievement, and IQ, than "nurture" does. Nurture, including the home and school environment, explains at most one-third of the variance in GCSE scores, and much less (around 16%) of the variance in the IQ scores of 17-year-olds.

Thus, even if we were to get rid of all of the environmental privileges that private school students enjoy, completely equalising the home and school environments, and encourage the same proportion of state school students to apply to Oxbridge as private school students, we'd still see overrepresentation of private school students, due to differences in average innate ability between the two groups.

'Genetic differences' give me a bloody break, obviously the higher standard of education from the age of 4-18 is going to account for that slightly higher IQ percentage in private school pupils.

Also, it makes no sense to just compare the IQ of private school and state school students, all you can do is compare the IQ of comprehensive school students applying to Oxbridge vs Private School students. And when you consider the factor that top state school students get the same grades with worse socio-economic backgrounds and worse educational facilities you would assume their IQ's would be higher. I mean if you look at the data for how comprehensive and private school students actually perform at Oxbridge, comprehensive students actually do slightly better.