Incident in Streatham declared terror Incident.

To be fair, it is a reasonable argument in the context of New Testament Christianity, which only uses the NT. A bit like Quranist Muslims who do not accept the sunnah as a part of Islam. It is not for us to define their faith for them.

So you don't support gun control, because the means by which violent people enable their violence is irrelevant.
Or to coin a phrase "guns don't kill people, people kill people"

But that can be a legitimate and recognised contributory factor.

Ha! I predicted this. lol

Ooh, I hope that was deliberate!

That is a fair point. I dont doubt the existence of some violent sections of theological texts. My point was that those people are just violent and are trying to justify their violence.

Or they are regular people whose natural adversity to violence is overcome by divine command? "Doing god's work" is a powerful motivator.
Also, when people do nice things and claim religion as a motivation, we don't hear people going "Nah, they are just nice people using religion as an excuse".


Exactly. And if a religious person believes they are doing gods work by following the contents of holy Scripture, who are we to say otherwise?

People can be sick though. They are not operating in a sane manner.

For example, I heard of a Christian US man that kept his daughter as prisoner in his basement and fathered some children with her. After many years, she fortunately escaped. The reaction was that he was sick.

The concept of Christianity is difficult to understand. Then you have the hundreds or thousands of years of evolution to modern-day doctrine. You introduce the Christian denominations like Catholics, Protestants, Church of Latter Day Saints, Anglicans and so on, then you have a complicated set of parts that are different but whole at the same time.

It has a lot of confusion in it, like most religions. It was founded by a person of a different faith who never advocated anything remotely like 'Christianity' as it exists today.

You are missing the central point here.
Where in the Bible does it tell fathers to imprison their daughters and have children by them? Exactly. It doesn't. His actions have nothing to do with Christianity. His religion is irrelevant.
However, if he had taken her to the town gates and stoned her for rebellion while quoting Deuteronomy, his religion would be relevant. Get it?

I am saying that sick people can use sick religion to justify their sick actions.

I won't swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen. What would you have done with me?

So sad, thinking of those injured and the families. Disgusting.

Relieved to see that they are all apparently recovering well.

We should also think about the emergency service workers and the incredibly brave and skilled police officers who dealt with this incident and who I would imagine have to live with the after effects for some time.

For once could we talk about religion without you telling us to stop?

Because of the subject of the thread, obvs.

For once could we talk about religion without you telling us to stop?

FIFY

Because of the subject of the thread, obvs.

The subject of the thread does not include anything to do with religion