Freedom, Georgia: Black families buy 96-acre 'safe haven'

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May I ask why you are blind in one eye?
The short answer is that I was born blind in that eye.

I'm not prepared to say what caused me to be blind given it would identify who I was.
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Not the first time that this has happened. Such schemes always end in disaster e.g. Jonestown.
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You've been brainwashed by cuckoldry white guilt BLM propaganda


Blacks are the ones who are mass killing Whites

go look up some fking race crime statistics you morons


Deceleration of European indepdence.

Freedom for Whites..

White Americans should return to Europe, and establish it as a European ethno-state.
You are talking racist foolishness unfortunately.
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You are talking racist foolishness unfortunately.
For once I agree with you mgi - he's talking out his rear end.
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Not the first time that this has happened. Such schemes always end in disaster e.g. Jonestown.
Disaster? what do you mean? What happened with the Black Wall street of 1921? do you analyse causes and reasons for things. There is, regardless of what a few posters on tsr threads think, an historical and current toxic relationship between black communities in the west and the corresponding policing systems of the particular countries. Therefore, something else has to be tried. The solution does not sound like it is going to come from begging white people for equality. If black people are to make progress in these matters they will have to step back from the traditional white policing of their communities and find fresh perspectives for dealing with a variety of community and economic issues. Their historical complaints about police brutality are rarely taken seriously by certain people.
When white people commit crime against white people very few people refer to race or skin colour. This only happens if black people commit crime against other black people - an excuse used by some to try to stop black people empowering themselves and taking charge of their own destiny. This is thinly supremacist ideology!
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Disaster? what do you mean? What happened with the Black Wall street of 1921? do you analyse causes and reasons for things. There is, regardless of what a few posters on tsr threads think, an historical and current toxic relationship between black communities in the west and the corresponding policing systems of the particular countries. Therefore, something else has to be tried. The solution does not sound like it is going to come from begging white people for equality. If black people are to make progress in these matters they will have to step back from the traditional white policing of their communities and find fresh perspectives for dealing with a variety of community and economic issues. Their historical complaints about police brutality are rarely taken seriously by certain people.
When white people commit crime against white people very few people refer to race or skin colour. This only happens if black people commit crime against other black people - an excuse used by some to try to stop black people empowering themselves and taking charge of their own destiny. This is thinly supremacist ideology!
Separatism is a product of discrimination; racism and sexism. If you disapprove of discrimination based on race and sex, why adopt separatism as a solution to these problems? Surely, you see the flaw in this logic. Surely, trying to resolve racism and sexism with more racism and sexism is contradictory and bad?
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Disaster? what do you mean? What happened with the Black Wall street of 1921? do you analyse causes and reasons for things. There is, regardless of what a few posters on tsr threads think, an historical and current toxic relationship between black communities in the west and the corresponding policing systems of the particular countries. Therefore, something else has to be tried. The solution does not sound like it is going to come from begging white people for equality. If black people are to make progress in these matters they will have to step back from the traditional white policing of their communities and find fresh perspectives for dealing with a variety of community and economic issues. Their historical complaints about police brutality are rarely taken seriously by certain people.
When white people commit crime against white people very few people refer to race or skin colour. This only happens if black people commit crime against other black people - an excuse used by some to try to stop black people empowering themselves and taking charge of their own destiny. This is thinly supremacist ideology!
You're so full of ****.
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You're so full of ****.
that is not an intelligent, well reasoned and explained response.
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Separatism is a product of discrimination; racism and sexism. If you disapprove of discrimination based on race and sex, why adopt separatism as a solution to these problems? Surely, you see the flaw in this logic. Surely, trying to resolve racism and sexism with more racism and sexism is contradictory and bad?
Have you actually read the article about the "safe haven"? How is this racism? Do you understand and have you researched in any detail the historical and current concerns regarding white police brutality and racism in rhe USA?
If your argument, like another uninformed poster ,is that because blacks kill blacks then black people should put up also with historical and ongoing white police brutality and racism then i won't spend much time debating with you the reasons why very large numbers of black people are not happy with white policing!
Do you hear white people objecting to ChinaTown or large Jewish communities or large asian communities living together and mainly trading with each other only? And they are certainly not exposed to the degree of white police brutality that black people have been exposed to for many years.
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Have you actually read the article about the "safe haven"? How is this racism? Do you understand and have you researched in any detail the historical and current concerns regarding white police brutality and racism in rhe USA?
If your argument, like another uninformed poster ,is that because blacks kill blacks then black people should put up also with historical and ongoing white police brutality and racism then i won't spend much time debating with you the reasons why very large numbers of black people are not happy with white policing!
Do you hear white people objecting to ChinaTown or large Jewish communities or large asian communities living together and mainly trading with each other only? And they are certainly not exposed to the degree of white police brutality that black people have been exposed to for many years.
The idea of a 'safe haven' for black people from white people is racist. It implies that the former group of people need to be protected from the latter group of people through separation, based on nothing but race. It's an idea that is inherently dualist, inherently marxist, communist, feminist, unfairly discriminatory and inherently racist.

I do not doubt that racism is real. I do not doubt that it causes many people serious harm. It needs to be eradicated. I am, however, certain that you cannot accomplish this goal by dualism and it's racist interpretations and solutions to life. You cannot resolve racism by separating people from each other based on the colour of their skin. This is a solution that is racist in and of itself. It promotes racism. It does not revolve it. It's so incredibly contradictory. It's so incredibly asinine.

I live in a large Jewish community in London composed of people of all colours and creeds. It's open to all people. It isn't a community separated from others based on skin colour or religion or anything else for that matter. It's a community that has large numbers of Jews residing in it, not out of design or formal intention to separate Jews from non-Jews. It's merely so as a product of convenience. People want to live close to family, synagogues, stores that are Kosher etc. That is all. Everyone is welcome to all of these things in this area. Our stores, our schools, our roads, our community is not separated based on colour or creed. Everyone is welcome here. You don't have to be Jewish to live here and experience everything on offer to Jews. Even our synagogues are open to non-Jewish people. I don't think it's fair for you to compare your socialist, marxist, communist, feminist black only commune to areas of the UK that are composed of large numbers of Jews or Asians or any other group of people.
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Have you actually read the article about the "safe haven"? How is this racism?
It's racist for the same reason ”No Irish, no blacks, no dogs” signs are racist.
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The idea of a 'safe haven' for black people from white people is racist. It implies that the former group of people need to be protected from the latter group of people through separation, based on nothing but race. It's an idea that is inherently dualist, inherently marxist, communist, feminist, unfairly discriminatory and inherently racist.

I do not doubt that racism is real. I do not doubt that it causes many people serious harm. It needs to be eradicated. I am, however, certain that you cannot accomplish this goal by dualism and it's racist interpretations and solutions to life. You cannot resolve racism by separating people from each other based on the colour of their skin. This is a solution that is racist in and of itself. It promotes racism. It does not revolve it. It's so incredibly contradictory. It's so incredibly asinine.

I live in a large Jewish community in London composed of people of all colours and creeds. It's open to all people. It isn't a community separated from others based on skin colour or religion or anything else for that matter. It's a community that has large numbers of Jews residing in it, not out of design or formal intention, but merely a product of convenience. People want to live close to family, synagogues, stores that are Kosher etc. That is all. Everyone is welcome to all of these things in this area. Our stores, our schools, our roads, our community is not separated based on colour or creed. Everyone is welcome here. You don't have to be Jewish to live here and experience everything on offer to Jews. Even our synagogues are open to non-Jewish people. I don't think it's fair for you to compare your marxist, communist, feminist black only commune to areas of the UK that are composed of large numbers of Jews or Asians or any other group of people.
Everyone is welcome you say in your Jewish community environment. Black people are not welcome in USA and they now need to think if radical ways to deal with the brutality of a racist police. One way might be to reset their community cohesion and organise better , more effective non racist policing that does oppress black people. They have to stop relying on justice from a racist police force.
Alsi, i did not quite compare a toxic racislly motivated pilice force in the deep American South with a cosy multiracial community in London did I , but you sort of did!
And from uiur response, i sm quite sure yiu did not read the said article either!
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Black people are not welcome in USA
Were black people welcome in the US under Obama?
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Black people are not welcome in USA
Wherever they are not welcome in the US, they should go about pursuing change through fair and just means. Separatism is not just nor fair. It doesn't solve racism. If anything it runs away from it. Separatism is contradictory. It promotes racial tension, hate and violence. It's wrong on so many different levels. This is why it has always failed, ALWAYS, sometimes at the cost of the lives of hundreds of people.
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and they now need to think if radical ways to deal with the brutality of a racist police.
So long as their solutions are fair, not racist and unjust as per your example of the separatist commune, I am all behind them.

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One way might be to reset their community cohesion and organise better , more effective non racist policing that does oppress black people. They have to stop relying on justice from a racist police force.
I notice that none of the solutions that you offer here are separatist. I am glad you no longer find separatism a viable, rational option to fighting racism.
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Wherever they are not welcome in the US, they should go about pursuing change through fair and just means. Separatism is not just nor fair. It doesn't solve racism. If anything it runs away from it. Separatism is contradictory. It promotes racial tension, hate and violence. It's wrong on so many different levels. This is why it has always failed, ALWAYS, sometimes at the cost of the lives of hundreds of people.
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So long as their solutions are fair, not racist and unjust as per your example of the separatist commune, I am all behind them.



I notice that none of the solutions that you offer here are separatist. I am glad you no longer find separatism a viable, rational option to fighting racism.
But thats why i was asking some posters whether they had actually read the article and also whether they understood the context of what was being proposed. I never once used the word separatist by the way. Therebis no doubt in most people's minds that something has to be done to resolve the undeniably widespread black community distrust of white policing right across the USA. I think the "safe haven" idea is an attempt by some black people to deal with what they call racist policing by a mainly white police structure.
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But thats why i was asking some posters whether they had actually read the article and also whether they understood the context of what was being proposed. I never once used the word separatist by the way. Therebis no doubt in most people's minds that something has to be done to resolve the undeniably widespread black community distrust of white policing right across the USA. I think the "safe haven" idea is an attempt by some black people to deal with what they call racist policing by a mainly white police structure.
Separatism is a socialist, marxist, communist, feminist solution to social problems involving discrimination. It involves total separation of one group of people from another based entirely on biological characteristics as to protect one group from the other. This 'safe haven' to which your article refers is separatist as it separates black people from white people as to protect them from discrimination. It is a fundamentally separatist idea.

I do not doubt for a second that something has to be done about racism. I think racism is satanic. I think it's a heinous evil that has profound negative repercussions. I think it's highly prevalent and systematic in many parts of the world. However, this 'safe haven' mentioned in your article does not offer any solutions to this racism. It runs away from racism. It employs racism. It separates people from each other based on the colour of their skin. As in, it promotes racism. It raises racial tensions. It promotes violence. It promotes segregation the antithesis of the civil rights movement!!!! It is so incredibly contradictory and wrong on so many different levels. This is why these separatist communes always fail.

I like the traditional approach to the civil rights movement, driven by traditional values, heavily anti-leftist/secular, focussed on building the African American community in the US as opposed to destroying it through segregation, the breakup of families, the promotion of abortion and degenerate leftist social constructs etc. The left and its perverse, amoral, foolish solutions to social problems are the biggest threat and enemy to all people in the US, foremost of them communities looking for solutions, vulnerable to exploitation like that of the African Americans.
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Why am i not surprised this conversation has degenerated into some incoherent rant about feminism? :rolleyes:
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Separatism is a socialist, marxist, communist, feminist solution to social problems involving discrimination. It involves total separation of one group of people from another based entirely on biological characteristics as to protect one group from the other. This 'safe haven' to which your article refers is separatist as it separates black people from white people as to protect them from discrimination. It is a fundamentally separatist idea.

I do not doubt for a second that something has to be done about racism. I think racism is satanic. I think it's a heinous evil that has profound negative repercussions. I think it's highly prevalent and systematic in many parts of the world. However, this 'safe haven' mentioned in your article does not offer any solutions to this racism. It runs away from racism. It employs racism. It separates people from each other based on the colour of their skin. As in, it promotes racism. It raises racial tensions. It promotes violence. It promotes segregation the antithesis of the civil rights movement!!!! It is so incredibly contradictory and wrong on so many different levels. This is why these separatist communes always fail.

I like the traditional approach to the civil rights movement, driven by traditional values, heavily anti-leftist/secular, focussed on building the African American community in the US as opposed to destroying it through segregation, the breakup of families, the promotion of abortion and degenerate leftist social constructs etc. The left and its perverse, amoral, foolish solutions to social problems are the biggest threat and enemy to all people in the US, foremost of them communities looking for solutions, vulnerable to exploitation like that of the African Americans.
The "traditional" approach that you mention in your response, however, has palpably failed to find solutions for literally many generations. The much lauded MLK himself did not find solutions, the Panthers didn't, the NOI didn't, white America hasn't, the KKK has survived 165 years, police brutality is still an issue, economic racism is ongoing. BLM are trying- the future results remain to be seen.
I don't believe that history shows that asking one's oppressors for permission to better oneself ever actually works snd one suspects it makes no sense to ask!
So therefore a new paradigm for race relations between black and white is an urgent problem is this world. Everyone can trot out the phrase " all lives matter" but few people actually believe it to the point of actively behaving in a way that proves that they believe that ALM! That is the major issue with this world. In truth, White people can never exist in peace until the Black people exist in peace! Why? because we are all interconnected as human beings!
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