New vision university Georgia

Hey i was wondering if i was to do the online medicine course from new vision university and then could i get a transfer to any of the universities in Bulgaria, Romania or Poland for example as new vision university is on GMC’s grey list

Hi, I'm planning to study medicine in Georgia(country) in the spring session next year. I've tried checking whether the universities that I want to go to are GMC accredited or not but I can't find any accurate information. From private universities I'm thinking of either Georgian National University SEU or Alte University. But I would still prefer to go to a state university like Ivane Javakhishvili university or Ilia State University. Could anybody who has insight on the universities in Georgia tell me which universities are GMC accredited.

GMC doesn’t accredit overseas medical qualifications, however, you can check GMC lists of ‘may accept’ and ‘do not accept’ qualifications on their website. Both Georgian National university SEU and Alte university are on grey list.

Yes I just checked the lists on their website, however all the universities of Georgia listed in the "we may accept" are private. Does that mean going to a state university of Georgia is a bad choice if I want to apply for the UKMLA in the future?

I’d say just go to universities with track records of successful graduates to give you assurance. I wouldn’t personally gamble with my education, time and money on a university that has no graduates registered with GMC. Akaki Tsereteli State University, David Tvildiani Medical University, Petre Shotadze Tblisi Medical academy, Tbilisi Medical Institute, and Tbilisi State Medical University have graduate doctors currently registered with the GMC. Your best bet is Tbilisi state medical university.

Hey i was wondering if i was to do the online medicine course from new vision university and then could i get a transfer to any of the universities in Bulgaria, Romania or Poland for example as new vision university is on GMC’s grey list

First, I would ignore all 'Anonymous' replies. It's the same guy tracking all Medlink school topics and keeps replying the same trash everywhere.

The Georgian school is on the 'maybe' list because of their Grad Entry programme. If you do the full degree, you are likely to be Ok. Unfortunately (as far as I know) in Georgia you don't get to touch a patient prior to your graduation. So, well...
When it comes to transfers it gets bit more complicated as most of the Med schools in Europe teach the same stuff, but they don't do it in the same order. So, (for example) if you try to transfer from year 3 in Georgia to year 4 in Poland, you might end up in year 2 again.

First, I would ignore all 'Anonymous' replies. It's the same guy tracking all Medlink school topics and keeps replying the same trash everywhere.

The Georgian school is on the 'maybe' list because of their Grad Entry programme. If you do the full degree, you are likely to be Ok. Unfortunately (as far as I know) in Georgia you don't get to touch a patient prior to your graduation. So, well...
When it comes to transfers it gets bit more complicated as most of the Med schools in Europe teach the same stuff, but they don't do it in the same order. So, (for example) if you try to transfer from year 3 in Georgia to year 4 in Poland, you might end up in year 2 again.

Oh ok, could you suggest which universities to apply to in Georgia?
And where would I be able to check records of universities' graduates who have successfully registered with the GMC?

I didn’t know New vision university is a medlink school. Also, if you are not aware, everyone can go to forum “International study” and new and existing threads with recent replies/posts get on top, not necessarily mean someone is tracking medlink school topics.

That’s true but it’s a bit odd that all these replies are coming from Anon posters. Nothing being said is contentious, so it leads us to believe that people don’t want the comments being linked to the same small number of accounts.

If you have first hand experience of medlinks or specific unis, we would welcome you to share them. .

From my personal experience, I started 3 years ago as a 4 year graduate entry medicine at NVU. We have been told that we have to do the full 6 years in order to be recognised by the GMC. However, SME continues to market false information on their website. For example, the graduate entry route is not recognised by the GMC, the Derby campus is not functional, there is no online studies now because pandemic is over unless you are critically ill or any other good reason and cannot travel to Tbilisi on time then they will give you online links in order for you to catch up on lectures. All lectures and practicals are currently offline. And there is patient contact during clinical years and you will have experience in different hospitals depending on which clinical modules you are taking. For example those taking paediatric will have placement in the children's hospital, those taking nephrology will have placement in the kidney dialysis hospital etc. Its not like the UK where every department is in one big hospital. The good thing is the university is well recognised in other parts of the world for the 6 years medicine degree and I hope that in the future the GMC will not change their mind about accepting the degree too. I know personally of 1 person who have graduated from NVU and took PLAB 1 this past November. But I heard they are other students who took PLAB 1 too from NVU. However, they all did the full 6 years medical degree.

Had it been I knew I will have to do the full 6 years, I would have gone to study in Bulgaria.

Just note, if you are planning to study at NVU, be ready to study for 6 years and be ready to relocate.

From my personal experience, I started 3 years ago as a 4 year graduate entry medicine at NVU. We have been told that we have to do the full 6 years in order to be recognised by the GMC. However, SME continues to market false information on their website. For example, the graduate entry route is not recognised by the GMC, the Derby campus is not functional, there is no online studies now because pandemic is over unless you are critically ill or any other good reason and cannot travel to Tbilisi on time then they will give you online links in order for you to catch up on lectures. All lectures and practicals are currently offline. And there is patient contact during clinical years and you will have experience in different hospitals depending on which clinical modules you are taking. For example those taking paediatric will have placement in the children's hospital, those taking nephrology will have placement in the kidney dialysis hospital etc. Its not like the UK where every department is in one big hospital. The good thing is the university is well recognised in other parts of the world for the 6 years medicine degree and I hope that in the future the GMC will not change their mind about accepting the degree too. I know personally of 1 person who have graduated from NVU and took PLAB 1 this past November. But I heard they are other students who took PLAB 1 too from NVU. However, they all did the full 6 years medical degree.

Had it been I knew I will have to do the full 6 years, I would have gone to study in Bulgaria.

Just note, if you are planning to study at NVU, be ready to study for 6 years and be ready to relocate.

You can use FOI - Freedom of Information request to ask GMC about the New Vision University. Make sure you spell everything correctly, as they tend to be very literal when it comes to their responses. I would not go to Georgia. If you can afford to pay for school in Poland or Czechia you would be much better off. Kyiv State Unviersity (once the war is over) seem a good pick too. Try to do school in EU if you can.

Why is Kyiv state university a good pick? I was a little curious so I have done a bit of research and found that there are only 3 doctors in the medical register who graduated from this university and the last time a graduate granted their first registration with GMC was in 2020 and she graduated in 2015.

My old GP and his wife went there. That's pretty much how I know that this is even an option in the first place. Most of the students in Kyiv tend to be from India. I guess they just go home.