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AQA A-level German Paper 2 (7662) - 12th June 2024 [Exam Chat]

Welcome to the exam discussion thread for this exam. Introduce yourself! Let others know what you're aiming for in your exams, what you are struggling with in your revision or anything else.

Wishing you all the best of luck. :yy:

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Date/Time: 12th June 2024, am
Length: 2hrs

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https://www.aqa.org.uk/subjects/languages/as-and-a-level/german-7662



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Reply 1
Has anyone got any predictions for questions on Der Besuch der alten Dame or das Leben der Anderen?
Reply 2
Original post by Hejavi431
Has anyone got any predictions for questions on Der Besuch der alten Dame or das Leben der Anderen?


i’m doing those two! i have no idea :frown:
Original post by Hejavi431
Has anyone got any predictions for questions on Der Besuch der alten Dame or das Leben der Anderen?

Doing those exact 2!

There does seem to be a clear prediction from der Besuch der alten Dame: I've heard from my German tutor that a LOT of German teachers (including him) are confident that a question on Nebenfiguren (side characters, e.g. Claire's entourage, the Gülleners, the authorities like the police and Bürgermeister etc.) will come up, possibly a question on der Lehrer (who if there's a general question on the Nebenfiguren, I've heard is the only one who it's safe to write the entire essay focusing on)
(If you need some pointers on how to approach this, lmk and I can try and give a run-down on what we discussed!)

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem clear what the das Leben der Anderen one will be
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Reply 4
Original post by attempting2learn
Doing those exact 2!
There does seem to be a clear prediction from der Besuch der alten Dame: I've heard from my German tutor that a LOT of German teachers (including him) are confident that a question on Nebenfiguren (side characters, e.g. Claire's entourage, the Gülleners, the authorities like the police and Bürgermeister etc.) will come up, possibly a question on der Lehrer (who if there's a general question on the Nebenfiguren, I've heard is the only one who it's safe to write the entire essay focusing on)
(If you need some pointers on how to approach this, lmk and I can try and give a run-down on what we discussed!)
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem clear what the das Leben der Anderen one will be


ooh can u share what u discussed
ooh can u share what u discussed
[der besuch der alten dame]

Sure! I just finished a session so I’ll try get it down while it’s still fresh in my mind.
(You would not need to include all of this in an essay, I’m just trying to offer as much material as possible to work with)
(edited bc my formatting got messed up)
(edited again because it is not letting me fix my formatting, so i gotta accomodate)

Der Lehrer has two big roles:
1) Indirect narrator (indirekter Erzähler)

Dürrenmatt uses the Lehrer to signpost what is going on, so that the story and its themes are easier for the audience to follow

For example, in the first act (after Claires arrival but before her offer), the teacher compares Claire to a Schicksaalgötterin (goddess of fate) such as Clotho (Klotho in German), who was one of the goddesses in Greek mythology who determined the fate of mortals. Whilst the other Gülleners focus on Claires money, the Lehrer comments on the control Claire has over the town because of this money, and the power imbalance this causes (thus the comparison to a goddess). Because of this, the Lehrer is uneasy that something bad will happen, but isnt exactly sure what (later on this turns out to be Claires offer)

2) Hypocrite (der Heuchler, hypocritical = heuchlerisch)

The Lehrer is just as corrupt and greedy as the rest of the Gülleners. He has a better understanding of what is going on, and yet he too succumbs to the temptation instead of being the one just man who fights against it.

E.g. At the end of the play the Lehrer makes a speech in which he justifies the murder of Alfred as the town had done Claire an injustice, and so the town owed her one (he is being vague as the press are there)

Other examples of the Lehrer’s greed and hypocrisy is that when he (and the doctor) try to negotiate with Claire at the beginning of Act 3, they’re still trying to get the money (just without needing to kill Alfred)

When he’s drunk and trying to defend Alfred later on, he’s drunk on alcohol he got from Alfred’s shop (i.e. that he probably didn’t have money to buy, and so has to kill Alfred to pay for)

Der Lehrer is a stand-in for the educated people in the audience who see what’s happening and realise what is coming. Without the Lehrer, the story is a ‘masses get swayed by money’ story, which these people could dismiss by going ‘I’m educated, I would never do that.’ Dürrenmatt uses the Lehrer to argue that these people are NOT an exception and would also succumb to the temptation, pushing his message of “man kann alles kaufen” (Claire, Act 1) / the corruption in a Capitalist society more strongly.

Also while I'm here I'll talk about the quote "Die Versuchung ist zu groß und unsere Armut zu bitter” (the temptation is too large and our poverty is too bitter) (Lehrer, Act 3)

This is a strong quote

It’s also not entirely true (more specifically, the reasons the Lehrer gives, Armut and Versuchung)

The core of this quote is the corruption of the capitalist society. Let me break it down:

Money rules the Capitalist society (“man kann alles kaufen”)

Therefore, the Gülleners prioritise money over morality (despite what they say when initially responding to Claire’s offer, “Wir bleiben lieber arm als blutbefleckt” (“we’d rather stay poor than be stained with blood”) (Bürgermeister, Act 1))

And that is why it is inevitable that they will kill Alfred. (i.e. it is their lack of morality, not the Versuchung and Armut, that makes his death inevitable)

Points about other Nebenfiguren that I didn't discuss as much with the tutor, but I made in a practice essay that I got a good mark on (inwiefern spielen die Nebenfiguren eine bedeutende Rolle in dem Stück):

1) Claire’s Gefolge (entourage)

Important part of the humour of the play (the Komödie in Tragikomödie)

For example their rhyming names (Koby, Lobby, Toby), as well as their characteristics (two eunuchs who speak in unison, two gum-chewing gangsters) are bizarre elements which add to the entertainment value of the play.

2) The Bürgermeister, Polizei and Pfarrer (Güllens Behörde (authorities)

Important for societal critique

Alfred seeks them out in Act 2 when he fears that Claire will actually kill him, but they dismiss his concerns because they have also succumbed to the temptation of the money.

E.g. the Bürgermeister has einen neuen Stadtplan (a new city plan), the Polizist einen golden Zahn (a golden tooth), and the Pfarrer eine neue Glocke (a new bell [in the church])

This is significant because these characters represent their institutions (Bürgermeister is the government, Polizist is the police, Pfarrer is religion)

And so Dürrenmatt uses them to show that the corruption (in preferring money over morality) is also present in these institutions (as well as in the general population, as established in previous scenes)

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Reply 6
Original post by attempting2learn
Sure! I just finished a session so I’ll try get it down while it’s still fresh in my mind.
(You would not need to include all of this in an essay, I’m just trying to offer as much material as possible to work with)
(edited bc my formatting got messed up)
Der Lehrer has two big roles:

Indirect narrator (indirekte Erzähler)

Dürrenmatt uses the Lehrer to signpost what is going on, so that the story and its themes are easier for the audience to follow

For example, in the first act (after Claires arrival but before her offer), the teacher compares Claire to a Schicksaalgötterin (goddess of fate) such as Clotho (Klotho in German), who was one of the goddesses in Greek mythology who determined the fate of mortals. Whilst the other Gülleners focus on Claires money, the Lehrer comments on the control Claire has over the town because of this money, and the power imbalance this causes (thus the comparison to a goddess). Because of this, the Lehrer is uneasy that something bad will happen, but isnt exactly sure what (later on this turns out to be Claires offer)

Hypocrite (der Heuchler, hypocritical = heuchlerisch)

The Lehrer is just as corrupt and greedy as the rest of the Gülleners. He has a better understanding of what is going on, and yet he too succumbs to the temptation instead of being the one just man who fights against it.

E.g. At the end of the play the Lehrer makes a speech in which he justifies the murder of Alfred as the town had done Claire an injustice, and so the town owed her one (he is being vague as the press are there)

Other examples of the Lehrer’s greed and hypocrisy is that when he (and the doctor) try to negotiate with Claire at the beginning of Act 3, they’re still trying to get the money (just without needing to kill Alfred)

When he’s drunk and trying to defend Alfred later on, he’s drunk on alcohol he got from Alfred’s shop (i.e. that he probably didn’t have money to buy, and so has to kill Alfred to pay for)

Der Lehrer is a stand-in for the educated people in the audience who see what’s happening and realise what is coming. Without the Lehrer, the story is a ‘masses get swayed by money’ story, which these people could dismiss by going ‘I’m educated, I would never do that.’ Dürrenmatt uses the Lehrer to argue that these people are NOT an exception and would also succumb to the temptation, pushing his message of “man kann alles kaufen” (Claire, Act 1) / the corruption in a Capitalist society more strongly.

“Die Versuchung ist zu groß und unsere Armut zu bitter” (the temptation is too large and our poverty is too bitter) (Lehrer, Act 3)

This is a strong quote

It’s also not entirely true (more specifically, the reasons the Lehrer gives, Armut and Versuchung)

The core of this quote is the corruption of the capitalist society. Let me break it down:

Money rules the Capitalist society (“man kann alles kaufen”)

Therefore, the Gülleners prioritise money over morality

(despite what they say when initially responding to Claire’s offer, “Wir bleiben lieber arm als blutbefleckt” (“we’d rather stay poor than be stained with blood”) (Bürgermeister, Act 1))

And that is why it is inevitable that they will kill Alfred. (i.e. it is their lack of morality, not the Versuchung and Armut, that makes his death inevitable)


Points about other Nebenfiguren that I didn't discuss as much with the tutor, but I made in a practice essay that I got a good mark on (inwiefern spielen die Nebenfiguren eine bedeutende Rolle in dem Stück):

Claire’s Gefolge (entourage)

Important part of the humour of the play (the Komödie in Tragikomödie)

For example their rhyming names (Koby, Lobby, Toby), as well as their characteristics (two eunuchs who speak in unison, two gum-chewing gangsters) are bizarre elements which add to the entertainment value of the play.

The Bürgermeister, Polizei and Pfarrer (Güllens Behörde (authorities)

Important for societal critique

Alfred seeks them out in Act 2 when he fears that Claire will actually kill him, but they dismiss his concerns because they have also succumbed to the temptation of the money.

E.g. the Bürgermeister has eine neue Stadtplan (a new city plan), the Polizist einen golden Zahn (a golden tooth), and the Pfarrer eine neue Glocke (a new bell [in the church])

This is significant because these characters represent their institutions (Bürgermeister is the government, Polizist is the police, Pfarrer is religion)

And so Dürrenmatt uses them to show that the corruption (in preferring money over morality) is also present in these institutions (as well as in the general population, as established in previous scenes)



thank u!!
Reply 7
does anyone do zonenkinder or goodbye lenin?? any predictions?
I’m doing der Vorleser and das Leben der Anderen. Does anyone else do these or have any predictions?
anyone doing andorra or das leben der anderen? also how are ppl revising in general (i fear i have left it a bit late 😭) but i’ve made a couple flashcards so far
Original post by reubenn05
anyone doing andorra or das leben der anderen? also how are ppl revising in general (i fear i have left it a bit late 😭) but i’ve made a couple flashcards so far

In general I've been using the Modern Language Study Guides booklets of each of the things I'm studying, cause they're actually tailored to the course and include a fair bit of writing in German, like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Modern-Languages-Study-Guides-level/dp/147189181X (das Leben der Anderen)
(They don't say they're tailored to a specific exam board because there's not a massive difference between what the different exam boards want)

If you can buy them, I definitely recommend them!
(also great PFP, I love car seat headrest)
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Original post by attempting2learn
In general I've been using the Modern Language Study Guides booklets of each of the things I'm studying, cause they're actually tailored to the course and include a fair bit of writing in German, like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Modern-Languages-Study-Guides-level/dp/147189181X (das Leben der Anderen)
(They don't say they're tailored to a specific exam board because there's not a massive difference between what the different exam boards want)
If you can buy them, I definitely recommend them!
(also great PFP, I love car seat headrest)

oh yh i bought them a few weeks ago, just need to acc put them into use lmao (and actually write an essay)
Reply 12
Original post by spencerspencah
I’m doing der Vorleser and das Leben der Anderen. Does anyone else do these or have any predictions?

I'm doing both of these and have absolutely no clue and don't really know how to revise for it🤦*♀️How are you revising?
Original post by l_calder
I'm doing both of these and have absolutely no clue and don't really know how to revise for it🤦*♀️How are you revising?
i’m doing dlda asw, what i’m doing (or will do, i’ve been focusing on andorra) is watch the film again so i know it inside out and all the tiny details to get that high content mark, and also looking at the hodder revision guide and making flash cards out of it
As I said previously, from what I've heard there's no predicted questions for Das Leben der Anderen, but here's some exam board questions (so you can identify any blind spots in your knowledge and the works. I'm happy to discuss any here)
(It may seem like a lot but I'll mark out when they're basically rephrasings / variations of each other. "like [number" = rephrasing, "sort of similar to [number]" = some of the material for one could be used for the other)

1.

Inwiefern spielt Gerd Wiesler eine Heldenrolle im Film? (like 6 and sort of similar to 11 and 16)

2.

Wie und mit welchem Erfolg hat das DDR-Regime seine Macht auf die Bevölkerung ausgeübt? (like 10, sort of similar to 5 & 13)

3.

Analysieren Sie die Rollen von MfS-Oberstleutnant Grubitz und Minister Bruno Hempf im Film? (like 8)

4.

Welche Bedeutung hat "die Sonate vom Guten Menschen" für den Verlauf des Filmes? (sort of similar to 12 and 15)

5.

Welche Methoden hat die Stasi benutzt, um die Bevölkerung der DDR zu überwachen und zu kontrollieren? Wie erfölgreich waren diese Methoden Ihrer Meinung nach? (like 13 & sort of 2)

6.

Welchen Effekt hat die Überwachung von Georg Dreyman und Christa-Maria Sieland auf Gerd Wiesler? Inwiefern könnte man ihn als Held beschreiben? (like 1 and sort of similar to 11 and 16)

7.

Inwiefern spielt Christa-Maria Sieland eine entscheidende Rolle im Film? (like 14)

8.

Untersuchen Sie die Rolle von Minister Bruno Hempf im Film (like 3)

9.

Untersuchen Sie die Rolle von Georg Dreyman im Film.

10.

Wie schildert der Regisseur das Leben in der DDR in seinem Film? (like 2 and sort of similar to 5 & 13)

11.

Analysieren Sie, warum und inwiefern Wieslers Charakter sich im Verlauf des Films ändert (like 16 and sort of similar to 1 and 6)

12.

Beurteilen sie die Rolle von Literatur und Musik im Verlauf dieses Films (sort of similar to 15)

13.

Untersuchen Sie, wie die Stasi in diesem Film die Einwohner der DDR beeinflusst (like 5 & sort of 2)

14.

Untersuchen Sie die Aktionen von Christa-Maria Sieland im Film (like 7)

15.

Untersuchen Sie die Rolle der Musik im Film (sort of similar to 12)

16.

Wie entwickelt sich die Figur von Wiesler im Film Das Leben der Anderen und warum ist das wichtig? (like 11 and sort of similar to 1 and 6)

17.

Wer sind die Anderen im Film Das Leben der Anderen deiner Meinung nach und warum?

Original post by l_calder
I'm doing both of these and have absolutely no clue and don't really know how to revise for it🤦*♀️How are you revising?


I’m going through past paper questions and making plans. I have a Quizlet with lots of different Flashcards for them, my name on it is alligatoriscooler if you want it
Reply 16
Original post by spencerspencah
I’m going through past paper questions and making plans. I have a Quizlet with lots of different Flashcards for them, my name on it is alligatoriscooler if you want it

Thank you so much!! They look like they'll be really helpful!
yo yo just wondering if anyones got some good revision techniques for the book? I'm doing Andorra, but cant remember how to revise that sorta thing at all and it feels like nothing has stayed in my head between revising other subjects☹️ any help appreciated 🙂
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Original post by anon238238283291
yo yo just wondering if anyones got some good revision techniques for the book? I'm doing Andorra, but cant remember how to revise that sorta thing at all ☹️ any help appreciated 🙂

i do andorra as well! there are a few websites available that give analysis and overviews e.g. https://www.studysmarter.de/schule/deutsch/drama/andorra-max-frisch/
i think it would be a bit late to order it now but i have the hodder study guide as well and i'm making flashcards out of it. otherwise, have a skim read thru the book again, search up quizlet decks for quotes and analysis and write some essays, other ppl like doing mind maps on characters/themes as well
Original post by reubenn05
i do andorra as well! there are a few websites available that give analysis and overviews e.g. https://www.studysmarter.de/schule/deutsch/drama/andorra-max-frisch/
i think it would be a bit late to order it now but i have the hodder study guide as well and i'm making flashcards out of it. otherwise, have a skim read thru the book again, search up quizlet decks for quotes and analysis and write some essays, other ppl like doing mind maps on characters/themes as well

thanks dude !! I'll check them out- got myself a plan written, and now just kinda hoping for the best lol, gl to you!!

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