Degree Classification - appeal (help)
hi there,
ok where do i start lol, my third year has been what i could only describe as a 'shambles'. In first semester i completely failed a land law module and barely passed my termination of employment exam. then i got low scores for my two pieces of coursework (i handed in one two days late so got a 10 mark deduction)
second semester was so much better, i got a 2:1 in my Social Law and got 2:2's in Commercial Real Property and Human Rights and a high third for Discrimination. However all of these were coursework based modules and 3 of the courseworks i handed in late (social law and human rights 1 day late = 5 marks deduction each and discrimination 2 days late = 10 mark deduction)
the only problem is i ended up with a third and i truly believe i should have a 2:2. Im pretty certain that without the deductions in the first and second semester a total of 30 marks i would have ended up getting a 2:2.
My dilemma is whether or not i should appeal. My reasons for appealing would be depression and addiction to gaming. You might laugh and think im joking and trying to be smart and try getting a higher degree but that is certainly not the case. I am very certain i could get diagnosed for depression and addiction by a doctor and if i got a medical note saying that i suffered from both do you think it might help my chances on appeal if i state the reasons i submitted my pieces of coursework late were due to depression and addiction to gaming.
My university's conduct regarding appealing classification is as follows:
Action Required by the Student
If, after consulting with the Chairman of the Board of Examiners or his/her representative, the student wishes to proceed with an appeal, the student MUST:
Within 10 days of receiving notification of the final award (or non-award), give notice in writing to the Director of the Student Administration and Support Division, of their intention to appeal, stating the grounds for appeal.
Not proceed to any degree ceremony.
Within a further 14 days, present a full case, in writing.
Appeals on the grounds of illness MUST:
Include full documentary evidence, and state reasons why the information was not presented in advance to the Board of Examiners.
my reasons for not presenting this information in advance ot the board of the examiners would be i did not expect that the classification would be a third and didnt see an issue arising at the time, but looking back and seeing how late submissions cost me a 2:2 because of my lack of focus and drive due to depression and addiction to gambling i think its unfair that i am cost a 2:2 if the work i did was good enough for 2:2 but the deductions for lateness pushed it to a third.
As further evidence i could also ask my housemates to go to any hearing with me and provide evidence of my addiction to gaming and depression. I barely went out the house, and whenever my roomates came into my room they always saw me playing world of warcraft and making comments about how much i play the game.
do you think it is worth pursuing or should i accept my third and look and try to progress with it somehow.
Any feedback is appreciated and this is 100% serious.
ok where do i start lol, my third year has been what i could only describe as a 'shambles'. In first semester i completely failed a land law module and barely passed my termination of employment exam. then i got low scores for my two pieces of coursework (i handed in one two days late so got a 10 mark deduction)
second semester was so much better, i got a 2:1 in my Social Law and got 2:2's in Commercial Real Property and Human Rights and a high third for Discrimination. However all of these were coursework based modules and 3 of the courseworks i handed in late (social law and human rights 1 day late = 5 marks deduction each and discrimination 2 days late = 10 mark deduction)
the only problem is i ended up with a third and i truly believe i should have a 2:2. Im pretty certain that without the deductions in the first and second semester a total of 30 marks i would have ended up getting a 2:2.
My dilemma is whether or not i should appeal. My reasons for appealing would be depression and addiction to gaming. You might laugh and think im joking and trying to be smart and try getting a higher degree but that is certainly not the case. I am very certain i could get diagnosed for depression and addiction by a doctor and if i got a medical note saying that i suffered from both do you think it might help my chances on appeal if i state the reasons i submitted my pieces of coursework late were due to depression and addiction to gaming.
My university's conduct regarding appealing classification is as follows:
Action Required by the Student
If, after consulting with the Chairman of the Board of Examiners or his/her representative, the student wishes to proceed with an appeal, the student MUST:
Within 10 days of receiving notification of the final award (or non-award), give notice in writing to the Director of the Student Administration and Support Division, of their intention to appeal, stating the grounds for appeal.
Not proceed to any degree ceremony.
Within a further 14 days, present a full case, in writing.
Appeals on the grounds of illness MUST:
Include full documentary evidence, and state reasons why the information was not presented in advance to the Board of Examiners.
my reasons for not presenting this information in advance ot the board of the examiners would be i did not expect that the classification would be a third and didnt see an issue arising at the time, but looking back and seeing how late submissions cost me a 2:2 because of my lack of focus and drive due to depression and addiction to gambling i think its unfair that i am cost a 2:2 if the work i did was good enough for 2:2 but the deductions for lateness pushed it to a third.
As further evidence i could also ask my housemates to go to any hearing with me and provide evidence of my addiction to gaming and depression. I barely went out the house, and whenever my roomates came into my room they always saw me playing world of warcraft and making comments about how much i play the game.
do you think it is worth pursuing or should i accept my third and look and try to progress with it somehow.
Any feedback is appreciated and this is 100% serious.
nothing to lose ,all to gain.
Why not. At worst you'll end up with your current degree and at best it could be pushed up to a 2:2. I think you may have trouble if you didn't mention your mitigating circumstances before. A friend of mine completely failed then tried to use mitigating circumstances claiming depression. They said he should have informed them before.
To be honest, you said you expected to get a 2:2. This suggests you were fully aware of what needed to be done work wise and I feel they may just see you as trying to chance it. Also - "As further evidence i could also ask my housemates to go to any hearing with me and provide evidence of my addiction to gaming and depression. I barely went out the house, and whenever my roomates came into my room they always saw me playing world of warcraft and making comments about how much i play the game". This sums up about 50% of students!
I don't see them going for this but try anyway. Good luck!
To be honest, you said you expected to get a 2:2. This suggests you were fully aware of what needed to be done work wise and I feel they may just see you as trying to chance it. Also - "As further evidence i could also ask my housemates to go to any hearing with me and provide evidence of my addiction to gaming and depression. I barely went out the house, and whenever my roomates came into my room they always saw me playing world of warcraft and making comments about how much i play the game". This sums up about 50% of students!
I don't see them going for this but try anyway. Good luck!
i agree with some of you in that i fear it is too late to do anything now, so am pondering whether it is even worth mentioning.
well i emailed my personal tutor (who is thankfully also the ex dean of the law school) and basically asked her for some advice.
i just ask myself in second year 4/6 modules i got a 2:2 in, if you take away my deducted marks in third year i would have passed 6/8 modules with a 2:2 one of them being a 2:1. and yet ive ended up with a third. Im just dissapointed really because i feel i have the ability and deserve a 2:2. I also missed my Land Law exam by accident and wonder whether they have taken that into consideration as i am planning to resit it after Graduation and whether or not they included it.
i just ask myself in second year 4/6 modules i got a 2:2 in, if you take away my deducted marks in third year i would have passed 6/8 modules with a 2:2 one of them being a 2:1. and yet ive ended up with a third. Im just dissapointed really because i feel i have the ability and deserve a 2:2. I also missed my Land Law exam by accident and wonder whether they have taken that into consideration as i am planning to resit it after Graduation and whether or not they included it.
I think you should appeal. It can't do any harm. Although I would strong (oh so strongly) recommend that you only say it was down to depression. The moment you mention an 'addiction to gaming' you will look so bad. So please, please, for your sake, don't do that. Stick with the depression part, get a letter from your Doctor and appeal. It could make all the difference. Good luck, I hope it goes well.
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Appeals on the grounds of illness MUST:
Include full documentary evidence, and state reasons why the information was not presented in advance to the Board of Examiners.
my reasons for not presenting this information in advance ot the board of the examiners would be i did not expect that the classification would be a third and didnt see an issue arising at the time, but looking back and seeing how late submissions cost me a 2:2 because of my lack of focus and drive due to depression and addiction to gambling i think its unfair that i am cost a 2:2 if the work i did was good enough for 2:2 but the deductions for lateness pushed it to a third.
As further evidence i could also ask my housemates to go to any hearing with me and provide evidence of my addiction to gaming and depression. I barely went out the house, and whenever my roomates came into my room they always saw me playing world of warcraft and making comments about how much i play the game.
do you think it is worth pursuing or should i accept my third and look and try to progress with it somehow.
Any feedback is appreciated and this is 100% serious.
Include full documentary evidence, and state reasons why the information was not presented in advance to the Board of Examiners.
my reasons for not presenting this information in advance ot the board of the examiners would be i did not expect that the classification would be a third and didnt see an issue arising at the time, but looking back and seeing how late submissions cost me a 2:2 because of my lack of focus and drive due to depression and addiction to gambling i think its unfair that i am cost a 2:2 if the work i did was good enough for 2:2 but the deductions for lateness pushed it to a third.
As further evidence i could also ask my housemates to go to any hearing with me and provide evidence of my addiction to gaming and depression. I barely went out the house, and whenever my roomates came into my room they always saw me playing world of warcraft and making comments about how much i play the game.
do you think it is worth pursuing or should i accept my third and look and try to progress with it somehow.
Any feedback is appreciated and this is 100% serious.
You can give it a try if you want, but I wouldn't hold out much hope. If you were suffering from clinical depression you probably would have got it seen to long before now or at least told a tutor. Thinking it wouldn't be that bad as a reason for not at least telling someone beforehand isn't the best excuse. Having a doctor's note dated a few days after you receive your degree mark will look like you are trying to boost it by any means possible.
Losing marks for late hand ins are well documented and you know of those in advance. It's only fair there are penalties for handing assessed work in late.
What is it, addiction to gambling or WoW addiction? Either way, it won't look good to the board.
I can't comment on the depression part, but do not put down that you're addicted to gaming. It is not a valid excuse, as there is nothing about gaming that is physiologically addictive and thus putting down that you failed due to it is akin to putting down you failed due to socialising (both can be psychologically addictive). If your constant WoW playing was the cause of your third class degree, than to be honest you do deserve the classification you got.
Sorry to bump this, but OP, as your at Lpool this may help:
http://www.liv.ac.uk/sas/administration/assessment_appeals_ug&pgt.pdf
http://www.liv.ac.uk/sas/administration/assessment_appeals_ug&pgt.pdf
Hey there just wondering how you got on with this? as I am now in a very similar (extremely similar!!) situation, and am currently trying to appeal. Only thing is I wasn't addicted to gaming... but suffered extreme anxiety issues throughout my second and third year (it actually took me 3 years to complete my final year)... so all in all, a bachelors degree took me 5 years to complete! ...I lost around about 70 marks across 4 essays... and would have been securely in the 2.1 category. I am just frustrated and annoyed with myself now for not seeking help earlier. 
:/
:/or if anyone else has experienced a similar situation I would appreciate the advise
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