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    (Original post by Flying Scotsman)
    I have no problem with doctors earning that, however my views are different for dentists.

    654 dentists earn over 250k a year, and I can't afford to go to the dentist where I live..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...arnings-income
    Agree with the above (though i admit i am biased) Dentist pay is ridiculous when you consider the cost for most people to go to the dentist. It's ridiculous that come my 19th birthday i am going to have to pay to go to the dentist, while they make such large amounts of money. i wouldn't even mind the fact that they receive their wage for working relatively easy hours if access to a dentist was the same as a GP.
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    (Original post by Lorenzo666)
    I would agree that a GP earning 380K would have to own the surgery to earn that amount. But i still think its a ridiculous amount of money seeing as they don't have the same responsibility as hospital consultants; they refer patients on if they don't understand the cause of the symptoms, basically leaving it to a specialist consultant to diagnose, but if the consultant is still unsure then there is no passing the buck. My dads a manager in the NHS and there are doctors that he is managerially responsible to that are earning >£300k as they do 80% private work and 20% NHS work, some of them even do 3 days a week and are still earning these vast sums. However, managers in the NHS won't speak up against the doctors shrewd tactics as they would damage their own career and the public image of doctors is that they can never be seen to be doing wrong. I would imagine that in a few years time the public will understand what goes on behind closed doors in the NHS and how money hungry these doctors are.
    If they are earning £300k, 80% Private and 20% NHS = £240k of that is coming from private funds, that means its none of anyone elses business how much they get paid (in regards to that 80% atleast anyway), which only leaves over £60k. Are you saying 60k annual salary for a NHS doctor is too much?

    And £240k is meager in respect of private GPs' salaries. A lot are on £500k+ (might be most, can't remember) - some are even on £1million+.

    Also, there is nothing wrong with shrewdness, its a quality.
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    (Original post by Lorenzo666)
    I would agree that a GP earning 380K would have to own the surgery to earn that amount. But i still think its a ridiculous amount of money seeing as they don't have the same responsibility as hospital consultants; they refer patients on if they don't understand the cause of the symptoms, basically leaving it to a specialist consultant to diagnose, but if the consultant is still unsure then there is no passing the buck. My dads a manager in the NHS and there are doctors that he is managerially responsible to that are earning >£300k as they do 80% private work and 20% NHS work, some of them even do 3 days a week and are still earning these vast sums. However, managers in the NHS won't speak up against the doctors shrewd tactics as they would damage their own career and the public image of doctors is that they can never be seen to be doing wrong. I would imagine that in a few years time the public will understand what goes on behind closed doors in the NHS and how money hungry these doctors are.
    What does you dad have to say about how disgusting it is with the staggering amount of middle-management types festering in the NHS, doing very little salient work and getting paid ridiculous sums of money for it?

    Or is he just bitter towards doctors?
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    Someone is earning a lot of money, therefore there is something wrong with this world :rolleyes:
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    Top-tier clinical biochemists (as well as microbiologists and other assorted quacks) working for the NHS earn over £90k. I know which job I'd prefer.
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    (Original post by Oogamy)
    Top-tier clinical biochemists (as well as microbiologists and other assorted quacks) working for the NHS earn over £90k. I know which job I'd prefer.
    I'm confused. Are you pro- or anti-doctors being paid that much?

    90k doesn't really compare to 200-300k :confused:
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    (Original post by anonymouz)
    If they are earning £300k, 80% Private and 20% NHS £240k of that is coming from private funds, that means its none of anyone elses business how much they get paid (in regards to that 80% atleast anyway)
    I'm saying that there is something wrong with the system if the taxpayer is paying for the expense of a medical education only to find out that they aren't getting their moneys worth as they are put to the back of the line, with private patients taking priority. A doctor will leave you waiting in the NHS, but as soon as the notes come out they are prepared to see you immediately, so how can they not be in it for the money?. It is our business regarding how much they get paid, as doctors should be doing 80% NHS work and 20% private work, with this private work occurring outside NHS working hours, which it isnt. I'm not making a generalisation here, this is a small proportion of doctors, just like it was a small proportion of bankers that got us into this economic crisis.

    Are you saying 60k annual salary for a NHS doctor is too much?
    No, a consultant gets 60K starting off and then with experience and the merit reward system, where platinum doubles your salary they can earn 1 million + with private work, however there are only a handful that earn anywhere near that amount. I think its wrong that a doctor will earn 150K in the NHS and this is nothing compared to their private work as the NHS should take precedence.
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    (Original post by jonnyofengland)
    What does you dad have to say about how disgusting it is with the staggering amount of middle-management types festering in the NHS, doing very little salient work and getting paid ridiculous sums of money for it?

    Or is he just bitter towards doctors?
    He would probably agree with you there, after all its harder to find a decent manager than it is a decent doctor. As its difficult managing doctors that expect to get their own way all the time. I don't think he's bitter about doctors, he just thinks some are lazy for the amount of money they are paid.
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    (Original post by Svenjamin)
    I'm confused. Are you pro- or anti-doctors being paid that much?

    90k doesn't really compare to 200-300k :confused:
    Yes it does, as the average pay for doctors is ~£90k. As has been said countless times these few examples are the exceptions.
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    I really wish people would stop posting articles from the Daily Mail. Other 'headlines' include "Love rival's ear torn off in bedroom fight with BBC historian" and "School's out for summer: But is the six-week break bad for children's brains?"

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    100K isn't a big deal, especially for what doctors do and the hours they put in.
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    Well, there are many problems wrong in the article.
    1) Firstly, calling this "News" is a bit rich; everyone already knew GPs were minted. We didn't particularly care how much.

    2) Secondly, the Mail focussed on Gross Incomes, out of which Salaries and Costs had to be paid, reducing the amount the GP actually had left.

    3) Thirdly, they've gathered information on 22 Doctors. 22! Now I'd hate to say that the Mail was generalising, but it's true so I will. They're generalising.

    4) Fourthly, the Mail complains that Doctors are being Paid for Overtime - How outrageous! - and at the same time moans that patients can't get appointments. Anyone else working Overtime would get paid, why should GPs be excluded, Mail? And if people are going to be seen, then the GPs have to work overtime. You can't have your fascist cake and eat it too.... Read more

    5) Fifthly, the Mail complains that GPs' working hours have reduced yet they're being paid more. Yes, this is true. But, they've only been reduced on average by Seven hours. That's a little over an Hour a day. Furthermore, find me one person, Mail, whose pay hasn't increased in recent years. You may not have noticed, but there is such a thing as Inflation. It means wages have to go up, you rag!

    So...I'm grading this a Major Fail. For Shame, Mail, For Shame!
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    Bankers make money whereas doctors don;t make money. Bankers deserve their pay doctors do not.
 
 
 
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