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Reply 20
I don't hate someone based on their nationality. That's deeply retarded.

You should be fine in most of South Wales, careful if you're going to the valleys though. They tend to be very nationalistic.
Of course you'll be fine.
Reply 22
Deano-101
You should be fine in most of South Wales, careful if you're going to the valleys though. They tend to be very nationalistic.


????

No we don't.
Reply 23
Adorno
????

No we don't.



Obv not all of them. But comparing to the cities - swansea/cardiff/newport e.t.c
I'm welsh and I hate the welsh. I actually prefer english, with all my college tutors being english as well as 1/3 of my class, plus the ammount of negative welsh stereotypes disgust me =/ only the idiots 'from the valleys' seem to get on telly.
Reply 25
Deano-101
Obv not all of them. But comparing to the cities - swansea/cardiff/newport e.t.c


How very bizarre. The etc being Bangor and St David's (neither of which are in the South). I'm a little perplexed, to be honest, where you get this idea from. Most valleys folk are only likely to be "nationalistic" if said English venturer into the valleys is much richer than they are. In that context, it's class conflict disguised as nationalism that's at stake. I guess, though, we all have our particular views.
Reply 26
Jaytwizzle1000
only the idiots 'from the valleys' seem to get on telly.


Because it suits the national press to portray valleys folk as dimwitted! 25 years ago they were portrayed as the enemy within...

What is this, pick on valleys folk day?
Reply 27
In my experience, no.
Adorno
Because it suits the national press to portray valleys folk as dimwitted! 25 years ago they were portrayed as the enemy within...

What is this, pick on valleys folk day?

Obv I know everyone who lives up in the valleys aren't idiots. But the majority in mainstream media on TV are just utter idiots, with borderline indian accents and an IQ of 3.
Reply 29
Adorno
How very bizarre. The etc being Bangor and St David's (neither of which are in the South). I'm a little perplexed, to be honest, where you get this idea from. Most valleys folk are only likely to be "nationalistic" if said English venturer into the valleys is much richer than they are. In that context, it's class conflict disguised as nationalism that's at stake. I guess, though, we all have our particular views.


Well let's just say this said English venturer and their family are much richer than the valley folk (which is possible... maybe likely)
My point stands, right? Even if their nationalism is just a mask.
Reply 30
Jaytwizzle1000
But the majority in mainstream media on TV are just utter idiots, with borderline indian accents and an IQ of 3.


Class ... that's what it's about. Valleys folk are considered the quintessential 'working class' and because the media is driven by the middle class with its latent fear of working class people, it helps to portray the workers as stupid, aggressive, and not going anywhere. Whereas, if you look carefully at some of the foundations programmes such as Belonging or P-y-C there's clearly more of a culture there than is obvious in mainstream media.
Reply 31
Jaytwizzle1000
Obv I know everyone who lives up in the valleys aren't idiots. But the majority in mainstream media on TV are just utter idiots, with borderline indian accents and an IQ of 3.


Welsh valley folk with Indian accents? good lord whats going on in the valleys??
Reply 32
Deano-101
Well let's just say this said English venturer and their family are much richer than the valley folk (which is possible... maybe likely)
My point stands, right? Even if their nationalism is just a mask.


But, it depends on how people flaunt it. You drive up through a poor valleys community in your brand new Merc and start flashing the cash of course you're going to get grief ... but that's the same as anywhere. 99% of the time, though, ordinary people - which is what valleys folk are - will treat others with respect.

You'd certainly struggle to find the nationalism you initially portrayed as endemic in most of the valleys villages I know.
Reply 33
Forbidden Fruit
Don't know the name (being taken down with family), it's South Wales, though.


why did you put a comma before though

a dramatic pause?

idiot
Reply 34
I'm Welsh, I speak the language fluently but I have an English accent so don't worry about it. But I think South Wales is filled with welsh people that can't speak the language but they have the stereotyped accent.
And no I don't hate the English, but i get pissed off when I get stereotyped for being Welsh and when people refuse to say my name properly even though they can.
Reply 35
nooooo. I even live there.
Wish we could get past the stereotypical insults that are usually fired at the welsh mind. And coming from North Wales, I do feel that we're overlooked in comparison to the South by the rest of uk
Reply 36
Alexander Tomaszewski
North Welsh are rather fond of setting fire to our property.

Valley Welsh like Rugby, singing and left wing socialism

Cardiff harbourside is full of *****

Pembrokeshire and Monmouthshire are part of England

opposed to right wing socialism?:confused:
Reply 37
oh gosh............... You english folk sure have a weird view of Wales especially the Valleys :s-smilie:
Reply 38
I was very surprised when an acquaintance of mine told me that the Welsh hated the English. Never ever thought such a thing is possible. She also told me that if I even say that I am in the UK instead of Wales (note UK not England) I might be beaten up. :/
Reply 39
Of course not. As with every place though, there are a small minority of idiots.

What irritates me though is that there's a weird undercurrent of Celtic nationalism that is deemed relatively acceptable by mainstream opinion. The presumption, and it's been mentioned in this thread, that somehow English people feel themselves somehow superior. Of course, this is always an accusation levelled at no-one in particular, because it is false.

BADBOY89
I was very surprised when an acquaintance of mine told me that the Welsh hated the English. Never ever thought such a thing is possible. She also told me that if I even say that I am in the UK instead of Wales (note UK not England) I might be beaten up. :/


That's a lot of old nonsense.

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