Cavalry charges

Yet they could not even follow their own planned route......

Yet they could not even follow their own planned route......

I believe that's because the police had also barricaded that route.

No. The protesters broke into parliment square then started smashing windows,groups then tried rushing and attacking the police who responded by holding them where they were

We were forced back all the way back up to the corner of Whitehall and Parliament Square where the police were flanking us on all sides and at one side it was kicking off. They then proceeded to push us all together forcing us 'back' 'back' back' – until we had nowhere to go. I saw people being directly punched in the head by police and hit using the edge of riot shields. We were squeezed tightly together, funnelled into a gap between police vans and a wall. The police didn't seem to know where they were pushing us. People were getting crushed against walls and having to scramble over them and climb up onto ledges of the surrounding buildings to escape the surges of the crowd.

They held us there for another hour, while the crowd just got more tightly packed and panicked. The atmosphere got pretty ugly and desperate at that point. People were crying and really getting hurt. It felt like if something, like the meshed netting over a basement drop I was forced to climb up on, caved in, a very serious situation indeed could easily have been created, initiated by the police behaviour.

Finally, after hours of containment they released the kettle and at about 6.30pm allowed people to leave in small groups.

No. Parliament square was open, ie no barricades at the entrances to it. They just walked into it. I don't think you even know what happened, judging by the statements you've made.

Window breaking happened a long long time after people marched into the square...

They broke through a police line then moved towards parliment square.

The protesters WERE NOT ALLOWED INTO PARLIAMENT SQUARE. They should have know better. As for your statments about people being hit in the hell and whatever, judging by the coverage it was pretty well deserved. I have seen enough of these protests and you can clearly see from then the police do not start randomly hitting innocent people unprovoked.

Then yours must be worse. Please quote me where I say tuition fees = human rights. Go on, try.

Anyway, shouldn't they know by now that kettling can turn a peaceful demonstrations into an angry, frustrated crowd?

I just can't understand why they keep resorting to it, unless that's precisely what they want: to anger the protesters and put them on the brink of violence so they can identify and arrest the "extremists".

In that case, they should probably arrest themselves afterwards for incitation to violence.

False. They didn't break any police lines to get into the square.

Do the police have the power to deny people protesting in a certain place?

Cause and effect.

How naive.

Have you ever actually spoke to policemen? They enjoy beating people in these kinds of situations. They even admit it in interviews.



Plus, how can you condemn violence from one party, but condone it from the other. Double standards. The only reason I am anti-police is because of this. And don't come with that nonsense that it is justified and needed. If the police need keep people away from places then fine, push them back. But the moment they start being active (in the way the above poster described in the quote) then they are just as bad as the thugs. And for crying out loud, horses?

Umm yes they do actually. One of the anti terror law bans protesting within one square mile of parliment without permission from the police

Fair enough, but surely they should barricade and road block the entrances that lead to the square? Looking at some pictures, it's like they were inviting them in...

The thing I don't get is the cavalry charge- surely that's all a little dangerous? It's a big crowd of people, if there's no room to run to, or you simply stay there, then what, you get trampled? At least the police aren't drunk and armed with swords, though, as they were at Peterloo. But still, a line of horses running into a crowd- I can't see how it helps.

I don't think you understand the use of a cavelry charge.....
A horse will not trample over somebody, police cavelry charges are used to break up large groups, gecause a horse will move between people, breaking up the crowd, the crowd seeing a line of horses will get scared, police horses are highly trained, aswell as the riders, not to trample people. They couldn't road block parliment square, because most people need to go to work, surprisingly London doesnt want to shut down for your student riot/protest.....

How naive.

Have you ever actually spoke to policemen? They enjoy beating people in these kinds of situations. They even admit it in interviews.

Plus, how can you condemn violence from one party, but condone it from the other. Double standards. The only reason I am anti-police is because of this. And don't come with that nonsense that it is justified and needed. If the police need keep people away from places then fine, push them back. But the moment they start being active (in the way the above poster described in the quote) then they are just as bad as the thugs. And for crying out loud, horses?

I don't think you understand the use of a cavelry charge.....
A horse will not trample over somebody, police cavelry charges are used to break up large groups, gecause a horse will move between people, breaking up the crowd, the crowd seeing a line of horses will get scared, police horses are highly trained, aswell as the riders, not to trample people. They couldn't road block parliment square, because most people need to go to work, surprisingly London doesnt want to shut down for your student riot/protest.....

I DONT LIKE IT HERE ME SMASH

I suppose that's why a girl from Cambridge was trampled and ended up receiving medical attention for a broken collar bone. Of course that didn't spark more violence.

Say that to the police man that trampled by his own horse.

You can clearly see from several photos, that it would have been easily possible to block the entrances that lead to Parliament Square. If they could kettle them into the square after they had moved in, and keep them in...well.

Thought students were meant to be smart or something.....why would they block the entrances to parliment* square, when people going about thier* daily business have to go through there? London isn't just going to stop just because some kids decide to be violent and threatening, some people actually want to get to work

So...you're not a student?