Ex-polys asking for AAB for biomed.... ???

For someone who missed out on their place by a couple of UMS, it's unfair. But as I said, there's nothing the university can do about it.

entry requirement go up due to the amount of people applying, nothing to do with how good the place is

T'as tort, mon amie, c'est la guerre.

The AAAD idea only applies in the application process. If you've only done 3 A-levels and mess one up, that's the end of it.

And yes, you would say that as you obviously passed your A-levels with flying colours and got in. For someone who missed out on their place by a couple of UMS, it's unfair. But as I said, there's nothing the university can do about it.

The purpose of A levels is to discern how much information you are able to absorb and also to gauge if you are worth having the time and effort put into, aswell as functioning as general qualifications. You should go to University only if you are clever, the cream of intelligence, because University is an educational institution for Academics and not people of 'average' intelligence who did not put the work in to get the grades.
A levels are not necessarily a valid indicator of intelligence, but they certainly are indicators of how well you can absorb information and how hard you work, and it should be no different.

Your teacher is an isolated example, that does not mean it applies to the majority of individuals, teaching a student requires time and effort, therefore they will only take the best they can get.

I know that this annoying and a setback for people applying now, but to be honest, it is a good thing. First of all, it makes degrees more exclusive, and second, I would not have a problem being treated by a doctor who got AAB. If my doctor got DEE however, it might be a bit different. As for the whole "ex-poly" thing...who gives a s****?! Alot of them have been universities longer than many TSR user have been alive. Its time for these arrogant whining babies to grow up and recognise how the university is now, and its potential, rather than its unchangeable past.

They already know they're accumulating debt; if they can't research it, they definitely shouldn't be going to uni.

You're not taking grade inflation into account, it's not like she got a modern-day D. Depending on how long ago she took her A-levels, it could be a modern B grade, and those B's would have been more like A's or maybe even A*'s.

I know that this annoying and a setback for people applying now, but to be honest, it is a good thing. First of all, it makes degrees more exclusive, and second, I would not have a problem being treated by a doctor who got AAB. If my doctor got DEE however, it might be a bit different. As for the whole "ex-poly" thing...who gives a s****?! Alot of them have been universities longer than many TSR user have been alive. Its time for these arrogant whining babies to grow up and recognise how the university is now, and its potential, rather than its unchangeable past.

I know that this annoying and a setback for people applying now, but to be honest, it is a good thing. First of all, it makes degrees more exclusive, and second, I would not have a problem being treated by a doctor who got AAB. If my doctor got DEE however, it might be a bit different. As for the whole "ex-poly" thing...who gives a s****?! Alot of them have been universities longer than many TSR user have been alive. Its time for these arrogant whining babies to grow up and recognise how the university is now, and its potential, rather than its unchangeable past.

There's a strong correlation between A'level grades and university results.

I should note that this is within universities. Also, "older doctors" average B's and C's, but old c's are a world apart from new D's.

There's a strong correlation between A'level grades and university results.

I should note that this is within universities. Also, "older doctors" average B's and C's, but old c's are a world apart from new D's.

would it, people quote all these the older C would be todays A, these no source to go with that

when the media have tried to put out that A-levels are easy by using people who know that field more than your average person still don't get an A

these a strong correlation because of study habits, but A-levels and a degree are a whole new ball park, i know many who walked in with D's and walked out with a 1st or 2.1 and a place at med school

Yes but some grads can become doctors with no alevels as long as they have a degree. Med schools would not accept them if they didnt think they would pass the course.
There are some grads medics on here who have CCC or CCD at alevel.

people on low income will begin to fear going to uni due to the debt that they know they will accumulate during their studies. They will feel it is out of their reach.

But if you're someone who's expecting to get AAB then how easy is it to mess up an entire a level? Particularly at A2, when half your grade is already determined by the AS grades you have - in some subjects you could get high Ds/low Cs and still get an A if you have high AS modules. And I mean last year I ****ed up an exam and got a C in that module, which was half the grade, and still got an A overall. I know some people do mess it up, particularly if they're doing stuff like Pre-Us where it all rides on the exams this year, but I know a lot of people who only missed their offers because they got complacent...should have just tried harder imo.

I am so sick of this attitude. It's your debt, not your parents, so why should their income even come into it?! Your degree will be just as good as someone from a high income background when you leave university, you will have as much earning potential, and so there is no legitimate argument to support that statement.

It's not unfair, there has to be a grade line somewhere otherwise there's no point in having grades...

I am so sick of this attitude. It's your debt, not your parents, so why should their income even come into it?! Your degree will be just as good as someone from a high income background when you leave university, you will have as much earning potential, and so there is no legitimate argument to support that statement.

There's a bell-curve. You study a life science, you really should have a better grasp of how these things work.

Couple of things to consider: Since 200(2?) we have moved from a single sitting to multiple sittings. Considering no other factors this would obviously make it easier to do well. There are other factors, though. Since I did my A'level maths (2005) an entire module has vanished from the syllabus. The year below me effectively had 5 modules of work whilst I had 6. That's the last 10 years.

There is also the much greater availability (and quality) of resources to work with, top-down pressures that cause teachers to teach to the exam and so on. A talented student today is much more likely to get an A grade than a talented student 40 years ago. This doesn't even have to mean things have been dumbed down, just that the grade is less indicative of the students natural ability.
Were I to sit my first year exams today I'd fail them. Were I to resit my first year I'd do better than previously. Again, you're supposedly doing science. Consider the concept of a fair test.
It's your ability to get the A grades that indicate your ability to get good university grades. You can say "I know people who have..." well I know people who have gotten better after taking a placebo. I'm talking about trends and you're talking about individual scenarios. Yes, there are people who pick their socks up and work, but statistically you're more likely to succeed if you have a history of success.

There maybe no rational argument against it but when you come form a lower income family and you know your parents will not give you any money towards anything, because they cant, it does make it more scary.
Im not saying that it is not possible for people on low incomes to go to uni Im just saying that it makes it way more scary.
I come from a low income background and I know that even though they could get a loan, a lot of my friends where too scared of having that debt when they have nothing to fall back on like parent.
Leaning how to cope with money in the first year of your degree is hard. If one week you run out of money and your parent cant give you any it make everything hard.

It is so much more stressful for those from low income to embark on uni even if the debt is not "real".