Was 9/11 an inside job set up by the US government?

At the temp the fires were burning the towers steel supports lose something like half of its load bearing strength if not more especially when you look at how long the fires were going for, one floor collapses on to another and then the next ect.

Do you have any evidence for that claim? Most of it would have been declassified by now.

hmm no there isn't

Well the same is true for suicide bombers. They do it because they are sacrificing themselves for their god/religion.

I believe it was, just look at the way the WTC building fell. Just totally random and it falls right within its foot print. Buildings dont collapse like that unless they were controlled demolitions. It's a bit of a joke really. What about the black smoke? and the multiple pop sounds that have been picked just before the towers fall and what about the steel core? Fire doesnt do jack to steel foundations and what about the news reports of one the buildings reported to have fallen but didnt actually fall yet? WTF. Then there are photos showing something mounted under the plane and the fact that it looked gray rather than an AA 747 and what about the time delay? If I remember correctly the second tower falls before the first. Plus plenty of other real interesting things I havent mentioned.

It's a long time since I last watched this but I found it very interesting at the time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwayjX4ipFc

But what were the Illuminati (or whatever) hyjackers sacrificing themselves for? the Islamic terrorists do so because they believe they'll get 72 virgins or what-have-you in the afterlife. The Illuminati is only taking over in this life and hence I can't see how it would benefit them to do that.

Have you researched the other side of the argument by any chance? It's like trying to preach atheism to a religious nut sometimes...

There are so many inconsistencies with the video tapes of 'him' after 9/11. He openly denied his involvement for months until he 'admitted' towards the end of 2001. Egyptian newspapers had an obituary for him in December of that year, and many hospital workers acknowledged his kidney illness at this time. He was on talking terms with the US and their agents (come on, they even funded him back along). They stabbed him in the back and used him as a metaphorical enemy).

This is not even mentioning Obama's so called murder operation. This is just plain ridiculous. No photos. No trial. Nothing. And you're saying it took 10 years to find a man using the best technology available? It's all propaganda!

typical nutcase post... extra long for added nonsense.

I've given up on trying to convince the conspiracy nutjobs otherwise. If you're dumb enough to believe it was an inside job, you're beyond help.

I've given up on trying to convince the conspiracy nutjobs otherwise. If you're dumb enough to believe it was an inside job, you're beyond help.

I can't really comment on the scientific evidence re the structural conditions that 'suggest' it was an inside job, because like 99.9% of the population I'm not qualified to do so. However it's worth noting that nothing like those conditions had ever been observed in practice before, so you can't go ruling things out just because 'it had never been known to happen' - it's exceptional circumstances like that that lead to things that science has difficulty explaining. Especially when, at the time, everybody's busy running around to try and save lives rather than take accurate scientific observations.

However, the biggest problem I have with this conspiracy theory is the complete lack of a motive on the part of the government. There is just no logical explanation as to why the US government would want to orchestrate a mass-killing of its own citizens unless you assume that they're all sadists. Perhaps to govern support for the war in Iraq/Afghanistan but that's ultimately a different route to the same destination. And personally, since I don't believe that such a huge number of people are inherently evil/mentally ill, I believe the story generally presented as truth, that it was the work of Islamic extremists from the Middle East.

in your paranoid fantasy world these retarded conjectures pass for truth. In the real world it is different. UBL was whacked by the SEALS in Abbotabad.

Operation Northwoods. Welcome to the real world.

I know what Northwoods was. But the difference there was that the USA was already at war with Cuba, so they had a motive for the acts that were supposedly planned. With regard to 9/11, why would the USA want to START a war with Iraq/Afghanistan? As I said in my original post (and you appear to have conveniently ignored) there is no clear motive for going to war there besides a) revenge for 9/11 as perpetrated by terrorist cells from those countries, or b) sadism, i.e. enjoying seeing people die.

You're claiming that nuclear weapons designs from the 1950s have been declassified?

Motives for a war with the middle east: money, oil, establish more bases in the middle east, and more money.