The Chelsea F.C. Thread IV

Don't be an idiot. Porto and inter milan he spent less than the likes of fergie. At porto he spent around the same as wenger. This comment just displays bitterness because mourinho was successful at chelsea. In fact it's nothing more than a pathetic troll comment you'd see on the comments section of the daily mail or skysportsnews.

You don't really warrant an actual response. Good luck with Moyes.

I'd say the same with fabregas as what you say for reus. Fabregas was basically that normal 16 year old youth squad signing you get from a club but wenger got the best out of him. Would still say reus is a quality player. Only gibbs, cole and wilshere have been arsenal players that ARSENAL have produced. Otherwise I'd go and say that phil jones, wilifried zaha and chris smalling also count here.

Technically you responded....

Good luck with Mourinho (one of my favourite managers).

We're not talking about Inter/Porto/Madrid. You was talking about how he has more experience than Moyes because he has won the title. Or at least that's what I'm assuming because you said I was talking nonsense when I said Moyes has the most experience.

I'd rather have a manager who has spent next to nothing and have gotten a club to 6th than a manager who had billions in the bank and managed to win the title.

If you re-read my post I stated 'actual'.

Everyone loves Mourinho, whether that's they love him, or the they love to hate him.

Bit different as Barca fought tooth and nail to keep Fabregas, whereas Dortmund proactively released Reus. Also Fabregas was bossing the EPL as a 17 year old whereas Reus played 40 games for a 3rd division German side before a midtable Bundesliga side picked him up at age 20. Its certainly a grey area but to me it just seems strange to call Reus a Dortmund product when he was tossed aside as a worthless 3rd division player, until other clubs polished him up into a 20m player over the next 6 years. At best partial credit. Also dont consider Fabregas an Arsenal product, but I dont think he'd be where he is today without us.

Bertrand is decent but nearly 24 and so at the stage where he needs to be playing and performing week in week out,but he isnt. Havent seen enough of him,but I see Gibbs taking over the LB spot from Cole/Baines. Cleverley amuses me, such a distinctly average player and yet Utd fans talk about his 'potential' when he's nearly 24. When he's 28 I presume they'll be talking about his development 'coming along nicely' He does a decent job sometimes but if England end up taking him to Brazil, we'll be a laughing stock.

Out of interest, how long do you think Mourinho will stay at Chelsea?

Tbd I'd say Arsenal made Fabregas the player he is today, I know he was at Barca until he was about 16 but it wasn't like Pique where it was essentially a loan deal. Fabregas was one of the best CM around 09/10 because he emerged as a leader which he isn't at Barca.

As much as I utterly despise him I agree with Zurich that Reus wasn't homegrown. There's so much more you learn as a pro even in the German 3rd div than as a youth player, physiciality, mentality, pressure etc

Longer than last time. Said he wants to re-build the next generation at Chelsea. Roman has stated his intention to do it all again with a new, younger squad and to win with style.

Jose has nothing left to prove now, and Roman doesn't have many managers to chose from. He'll have learnt his lesson.

Love to see Zola come in and manager us when Jose leaves though.
Or maybe Lamps depending on how long Jose stays for.

Expect this to be one of Jose's last club positions before going to manage Portugal.

It's funny that mourinho has only managed for 13 years yet it's almost getting to the point that he may be winding down his career. Just goes to show his achievements and how quickly time flies.

I'd say between 4-7 years tbh.

That seems to be exactly what he's doing. There's literally nothing left for him to do. If he wins the CL with us he's the first manager to win it with 3 different teams. And I think that's his last target. After that he can just relax and try to bring through the new Chelsea generation.

Obviously he's certain to manage the national team. But he'll retire earlier than most managers.

Personally I think he might as well. I really don't know how fergie went an extra 11 years after almost retiring in 2002. I'd have packed my bags in 1999 if I was fergie. I guess knocking liverpool off their perch was good motivation though.

I wonder how AVB's career will pan out. That would be something interesting. Him and klopp are the two managers I'm the most interested in at the moment. He's made up for his failure at chelsea, so I could see him going to a club like madrid in the future if he can get a top 4 spot or even a title at tottenham.

I liked AVB, just think it was too much pressure for what was required and the wrong squad. Wonder how he would have coped with our current squad.

I'm just waiting to see how John Terry does as a manager, as it's clearly something he wants to do. Wonder if Jose will hire him as the youth team manager or in a similar capacity once he retires, or whether Terry will go to a different club. Who knows.

Think Lamps would make a great manager.

Klopp is just a charismatic SOB. I do wonder where he'd go after Dortmund though, assuming he eventually leaves.

Chelsea are in a better position than man city manager wise despite city having a slightly better team so it'd be 50-50.

United don't have the strongest squad it all depends on their character and if moyes can instill that same confidence and attitude that fergie did(he should be able to imo) then I think that they'd be in the mix. United haven't finished under 3rd place since the premier league begun.

Personally I think he might as well. I really don't know how fergie went an extra 11 years after almost retiring in 2002. I'd have packed my bags in 1999 if I was fergie. I guess knocking liverpool off their perch was good motivation though.

I wonder how AVB's career will pan out. That would be something interesting. Him and klopp are the two managers I'm the most interested in at the moment. He's made up for his failure at chelsea, so I could see him going to a club like madrid in the future if he can get a top 4 spot or even a title at tottenham.

Tad confused -- their squad isn't that brilliant (and Fergie helped the most), or they don't have the strongest in the league?