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Hi,

Can someone help me with the questions stated below please. I have done some working but I am finding it difficult when it comes to taking out a common factor/simplifying to match the answer in the book.

Calculate dy/dx for:

1. y = sec x tan x
2. y = cot (tan x )
3. y = cosec(sin x)

My working so far:

1. y = sec x tan x
dy/dx = secx . sec^2x + tanx . secxtanx
= sec^3x + tanx . secxtanx
= secx ( sec^2x + tan^2x)
= secx(1/cos^2x + sin^2x/cos^2x)
= secx(1 + sin^2x+/cos^2x )
= ...

Answer in the book = sec x (2 sec^2x - 1)

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Reply 1
Original post by kurt123
Hi,

Can someone help me with the questions stated below please. I have done some working but I am finding it difficult when it comes to taking out a common factor/simplifying to match the answer in the book.

Calculate dy/dx for:

1. y = sec x tan x
2. y = cot (tan x )
3. y = cosec(sin x)

My working so far:

1. y = sec x tan x
dy/dx = secx . sec^2x + tanx . secxtanx
= sec^3x + tanx . secxtanx
= secx ( sec^2x + tan^2x)
= secx(1/cos^2x + sin^2x/cos^2x)
= secx(1 + sin^2x+/cos^2x )
= ...

Answer in the book = sec x (2 sec^2x - 1)


Are you familiar with this identity

1 + (tanx)^2 = (secx)?

Use this to replace the (tanx)^2 part I put I bold I for quote above ^.
(edited 10 years ago)
Reply 2
Original post by kurt123
Hi,

Can someone help me with the questions stated below please. I have done some working but I am finding it difficult when it comes to taking out a common factor/simplifying to match the answer in the book.

Calculate dy/dx for:

1. y = sec x tan x
2. y = cot (tan x )
3. y = cosec(sin x)

My working so far:

1. y = sec x tan x
dy/dx = secx . sec^2x + tanx . secxtanx
= sec^3x + tanx . secxtanx
= secx ( sec^2x + tan^2x)
= secx(1/cos^2x + sin^2x/cos^2x)
= secx(1 + sin^2x+/cos^2x )
= ...

Answer in the book = sec x (2 sec^2x - 1)


You should know a rule that connects sec2x\sec^2x and tan2x\tan^2x
Reply 3
Original post by krisshP
Are you familiar with this identity

1 + (tanx)^2 = (secx)?

Use this to replace the (tanx)^2 part I put I bold I for quote above ^.


No, I only started the course 2 days ago.
However , I was told secx = 1/cosx
Original post by TenOfThem
You should know a rule that connects sec2x\sec^2x and tan2x\tan^2x


This might actually be in the A. Higher formula book.
Reply 5
Original post by TenOfThem
You should know a rule that connects sec2x\sec^2x and tan2x\tan^2x


Is it 1 + tan^2x = sec^2x
Reply 6
Original post by kurt123
No, I only started the course 2 days ago.
However , I was told secx = 1/cosx


Do you know this:

(Sinx)^2 + (Cosx)^2 =1

?

Divide both sides by (cosx)^2 and see what you get.

Another identity can be obtained if divide both sides by (sinx)^2

:smile:
Reply 7
Original post by krisshP
Do you know this:

(Sinx)^2 + (Cosx)^2 =1

?

Divide both sides by (cosx)^2 and see what you get.

Another identity can be obtained if divide both sides by (sinx)^2

:smile:



Yep, from Higher :smile:

should I take it from the line:
secx (sec^2x + tan^2x)
Original post by kurt123
Yep, from Higher :smile:

should I take it from the line:
secx (sec^2x + tan^2x)


Really I don't remember doing this at higher, then again it was a while ago now.
Reply 9
Original post by kurt123
Is it 1 + tan^2x = sec^2x


Yes

It comes from

sin2x+cos2x=1\sin^2 x + \cos^2 x = 1

If you divide this by cos2x\cos^2x or by sin2x\sin^2 x you get 2 really useful identities

:smile:
Reply 10
Original post by kurt123
Yep, from Higher :smile:

should I take it from the line:
secx (sec^2x + tan^2x)


Yep
Reply 11
Original post by TenOfThem
Yes

It comes from

sin2x+cos2x=1\sin^2 x + \cos^2 x = 1

If you divide this by cos2x\cos^2x or by sin2x\sin^2 x you get 2 really useful identities

:smile:


Original post by krisshP
Yep



Thanks very much. Finally got it. :biggrin:
Reply 12
For 2. y = cot(tanx) my working so far is:

dy/dx = cot . sec^2x + tanx . -cosec^2
= 1/tan . sec^2x - tanxcosec^2

Where would I go from there if that's correct?
Original post by kurt123
For 2. y = cot(tanx) my working so far is:

dy/dx = cot . sec^2x + tanx . -cosec^2
= 1/tan . sec^2x - tanxcosec^2

Where would I go from there if that's correct?


This one is chain rule not product rule
Reply 14
Original post by kurt123
For 2. y = cot(tanx) my working so far is:

dy/dx = cot . sec^2x + tanx . -cosec^2
= 1/tan . sec^2x - tanxcosec^2

Where would I go from there if that's correct?


Use the substitution u= tan(x)
Reply 15
Original post by zaback21
Use the substitution u= tan(x)


Original post by TenOfThem
This one is chain rule not product rule


Thanks! :smile:

How do you know when to use the chain rule and product rule?
Original post by kurt123
Thanks! :smile:

How do you know when to use the chain rule and product rule?


Because it is the function of a function not a function multiplied by a function
Original post by kurt123
Thanks! :smile:

How do you know when to use the chain rule and product rule?


When I was taught these, a good way we were taught to remember was that the product rule is as such a product (multiplication) of two functions. The chainrule on the otherhand is implemented when there is a function of a function i.e. derivative of f(g(t)). Sometimes you even have to implement both perhaps when caluclating the derivative of a product where one or more of the functions of the product has a function inside. :smile:
Reply 18
Original post by TenOfThem
Because it is the function of a function not a function multiplied by a function


Original post by BAD AT MATHS
When I was taught these, a good way we were taught to remember was that the product rule is as such a product (multiplication) of two functions. The chainrule on the otherhand is implemented when there is a function of a function i.e. derivative of f(g(t)). Sometimes you even have to implement both perhaps when caluclating the derivative of a product where one or more of the functions of the product has a function inside. :smile:


Thanks for the help. :smile:
Reply 19
I know partial fractions are meant to be easy but I am stuck on 2 questions.

Express each of the following in partial fractions.

1) 3x+1 / (x - 1) (x^2 - 1)

2) 3x + 3 / (x - 1) (x^2 + x +1)



Any help would be much appreciated. :smile:

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