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Reply 580
Original post by kpwxx
Yeah, it's a tricky one... see how it goes in the meantime before applications open. You might know more about your placement before they do and be able to contact the school to arrange to go in reception for a while, then put that down as upcoming experience in your application. And then you may have had it by interview.

Was it you who was really struggling to find anything? Have you tried asking round local Nurseries rather than schools, I know it would be good to have some reception as well but it would be better than nothing, you could maybe fit in a couple of afternoons in one nursery, a couple in another etc. Maybe if your uni has a Nursery for staff/students' children you could try there?

xxx


Well I've not struggled finding work experience in schools as I think I've done quite a bit. But, do need to some this year too and I'm doing the students into school scheme but just waiting to be placed. I think I will try the Nursery at my uni, they might be able to offer me something. Then maybe I could do both nursery and reception. Do you know when the PGCE deadline is this year?


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Reply 581
Original post by Fabay
Well I've not struggled finding work experience in schools as I think I've done quite a bit. But, do need to some this year too and I'm doing the students into school scheme but just waiting to be placed. I think I will try the Nursery at my uni, they might be able to offer me something. Then maybe I could do both nursery and reception. Do you know when the PGCE deadline is this year?


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There is no longer a deadline for primary - it has been abolished. However, the unis can close applications if they've filled all their places, or close them then reopen them if they have too many applicants.

Since in previous years people have only been able to apply for one course at a time but this year they can apply for three unis are likely to have a massive influx of applications, and because they have to respond within 40 days many of them may find they HAVE to close for a while to allow them time to process what they have.

So basically, there is no closing date but the best advice is to get it done as soon as you're ready. However, don't give up hope if it's closed - keep checking back as they may well reopen (especially since some people may get more than one offer this year and decide to go for a different one, freeing up a place).

One more thing to consider... Early Years courses sometimes take slightly longer to fill up since they are more specialised, meaning possibly less applicants and more specific things the unis are looking for. But this is not definite, and would depend on the uni etc (eg. if the uni has a really good rep for early years).

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Reply 582
Original post by kpwxx
There is no longer a deadline for primary - it has been abolished. However, the unis can close applications if they've filled all their places, or close them then reopen them if they have too many applicants.

Since in previous years people have only been able to apply for one course at a time but this year they can apply for three unis are likely to have a massive influx of applications, and because they have to respond within 40 days many of them may find they HAVE to close for a while to allow them time to process what they have.

So basically, there is no closing date but the best advice is to get it done as soon as you're ready. However, don't give up hope if it's closed - keep checking back as they may well reopen (especially since some people may get more than one offer this year and decide to go for a different one, freeing up a place).

One more thing to consider... Early Years courses sometimes take slightly longer to fill up since they are more specialised, meaning possibly less applicants and more specific things the unis are looking for. But this is not definite, and would depend on the uni etc (eg. if the uni has a really good rep for early years).

xxx


Oh that sounds a lot better since applications open in November hopefully I may be lucky enough to find a placement in a nursery before then. Thanks for all the useful info! Where are you applying?


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Original post by Juichiro
Thanks for your reply, BabyGirl. Yes, there is. I will email them tomorrow morning. Did you also do class observation? Can I ask what subject and level are you applying? I am applying from secondary spanish and french. :smile:


Hi. Well I didn't really do observation because at the time I wasn't planning on being a teacher. I was registered with the uni volunteering department and the opportunity came up in a school 5 mins away from my house so I jumped at the chance to get some experience and improve my CV. I had thought about teaching before but then kind of forgot about it, but volunteering made me reconsider it because I enjoyed it so much. Oh it'll be primary early years probably :biggrin: Was all set for upper primary but then my new placement has made me change my mind. I was with year 3 before so they were quite young anyway.

I've done some observation in my current one though, I'm sort of on 'work experience' twice a week, going down to one day a week now.
Reply 584
Original post by kpwxx
There is no longer a deadline for primary - it has been abolished. However, the unis can close applications if they've filled all their places, or close them then reopen them if they have too many applicants.

Since in previous years people have only been able to apply for one course at a time but this year they can apply for three unis are likely to have a massive influx of applications, and because they have to respond within 40 days many of them may find they HAVE to close for a while to allow them time to process what they have.

So basically, there is no closing date but the best advice is to get it done as soon as you're ready. However, don't give up hope if it's closed - keep checking back as they may well reopen (especially since some people may get more than one offer this year and decide to go for a different one, freeing up a place).

One more thing to consider... Early Years courses sometimes take slightly longer to fill up since they are more specialised, meaning possibly less applicants and more specific things the unis are looking for. But this is not definite, and would depend on the uni etc (eg. if the uni has a really good rep for early years).

xxx


Also, is a nursery class as part of a school still ok to get or would you recommend somewhere separate?


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Reply 585
Original post by Fabay
Also, is a nursery class as part of a school still ok to get or would you recommend somewhere separate?


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A nursery class in a school is perfect :smile:. In general, whether it's in a school or a separate nursery they should follow the same principles, but in practice there is sometimes pressure from higher up schools pushing down (eg. more of a focus on literacy and maths) in ones attached to schools, but by no means always. I'd just get whichever you can, I just suggested separate nurseries as schools are sometimes busy and hard to get experience in, so that's another option.

And I am not applying, I did a PGCE last year, I just can't give up my TSR addiction!!! Lol. And love helping other people out if I can. Just started a job in a Nursery class ^^

xxx
Original post by alabelle
Anyone else feeling really frustrated about the lack of info available to 2014 applicants? UCAS is still redirecting to the GTTR for postgraduate course searches and the GTTR is still referring to 2013 applicants. Considering 2013 applicants have started now, it seems a bit slow to update. Annoying that we can't book skills tests either!




Tell me about it! :s-smilie:
I think my personal statement is just about the worst thing I have ever read! I'm finding the structure of it really hard, as all the personal statements I have read vary so much from each other! I've had quite a lot of experience in both primary and secondary schools (I'm applying for secondary English), and I've taught one year 6 and one year 7 class in two of my 10-day experiences, but there's just not enough space to write about the planning of these lessons and then reflecting on these lessons! As well as then going on about mentoring and tutorials that I'm leading this year at uni! How is everyone else structuring theirs, and how much detail would you go into about each experience you've had? I'm an English student, I should be able to do this! :tongue:
Reply 588
Hey, been as a few people are asking about it thought I'd post the basic structure I used for my (successful) primary application for last year. Just for an extra opinion :smile: Lines are in word, rounded, just to give an idea of the proportions.

Intro - key inspiration for being a teacher [6 lines]
What I noted about how children learn from observational placements [9 lines]
Why I chose my age phase [6 lines]
Brief mention of a book I read and what I got from it [5 lines]
Transferable/academic skills and specific areas of expertise gained from degree/extracurricular etc [11 lines]
Closing paragraph [4 lines]

xxx
Hey guys! I'm applying for my primary PGCE this year, to start in 2014 (obviously). I know that applications don't open until November 1st and we have to go through UCAS now, but I was just wondering if we were able to start filling in the application form before that date? Just so it's ready to send off on November 1st? Sorry, that may not make much sense. I mean is there anyway of starting it, i.e. filling in our personal statement, qualifications etc.

Thank you for any help

xxx
Reply 590
Hi Guys,

I want to apply for my PGCE in 2014 and I was just wondering if anyone could sort out my confusion with the new UCAS application system. The UCAS website states that you need two references (I know the GTTR application system asked for this too, but they only asked for a written reference from one principal referee, so do we now need to provide two written references?) I just wanted to know because If this is the case I will now have to tell my 'second referee' to write something and I wish I had given her more notice. If anyone can shed light on this I will be so so grateful! :smile:
Reply 591
Original post by kpwxx
A nursery class in a school is perfect :smile:. In general, whether it's in a school or a separate nursery they should follow the same principles, but in practice there is sometimes pressure from higher up schools pushing down (eg. more of a focus on literacy and maths) in ones attached to schools, but by no means always. I'd just get whichever you can, I just suggested separate nurseries as schools are sometimes busy and hard to get experience in, so that's another option.

And I am not applying, I did a PGCE last year, I just can't give up my TSR addiction!!! Lol. And love helping other people out if I can. Just started a job in a Nursery class ^^

xxx


I've been in touch with a pre school and they are going to let me know tomorrow if they have enough space for me to volunteer.

Oh right, you are very helpful too so thanks! So did you do an early years PGCE? What was your interview like?


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Original post by MillieBar
Hi Guys,

I want to apply for my PGCE in 2014 and I was just wondering if anyone could sort out my confusion with the new UCAS application system. The UCAS website states that you need two references (I know the GTTR application system asked for this too, but they only asked for a written reference from one principal referee, so do we now need to provide two written references?) I just wanted to know because If this is the case I will now have to tell my 'second referee' to write something and I wish I had given her more notice. If anyone can shed light on this I will be so so grateful! :smile:


If it states it on the website then that's what you'll need. You needed two for GTTR also, it was just the case that it was optional for unis to get your second one. UCAS has changed that now.
Reply 593
Original post by Fabay
I've been in touch with a pre school and they are going to let me know tomorrow if they have enough space for me to volunteer.

Oh right, you are very helpful too so thanks! So did you do an early years PGCE? What was your interview like?


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Sounds promising! I did PGCE (M) Primary at X with the specialism of early years and key stage one age range.

Sorry, talking about interviews is against the rules (see below)! And sorry mods :colondollar:, I had no idea as I'd seen discussions about it before!

What I will say is go to open days for the course if your can as they often have ex students there who can give more info about interviews, plus the admissions people themselves are usually happy to help and give more info- they like to see you being proactive (email them if you can't make an open day). Plus their info will be accurate for the year you're applying for. Also try Facebook groups for more specific info.

Xxx


[MOD EDIT: Interview discussion is against TSR rules, especially when it mentions the specific institution/company/etc which the interview was for. This can give applicants an unfair advantage when applying in future.]

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Reply 594
Original post by Shelly_x
If it states it on the website then that's what you'll need. You needed two for GTTR also, it was just the case that it was optional for unis to get your second one. UCAS has changed that now.

Thanks for this - I have a question - my referees are asking where they need to send these references? Will they send them to me directly? Or do they send them to UCAS directly?
Original post by Marcusian
Thanks for this - I have a question - my referees are asking where they need to send these references? Will they send them to me directly? Or do they send them to UCAS directly?


You will put in their email address and other contact details and they will be alerted via email that they need to fill the reference section of UCAS in. They will be provided with a link and their own log on details that will let them see only the referee section of your app.
Reply 596
Hi!

Going to slight panic mode about the whole application process - I have been writing my personal statement since March and still can't get it quite right! I'm applying for secondary Geography.

Main worry is about observation - I did the SEP placement but they could only offer me 3 days due to CRB restrictions as well as three days at another local school. I have a year as a teacher at an Independent school too. Problem is I am going travelling in 2 weeks and won't be back until February, so would only be able to do more days after that. Is that a bit risky? I work every holiday at a summer camp as well as in a Museum in the education department so have experience with kids outside the classroom.

At the moment my choices are IoE, Goldsmiths and either Cambridge or Southampton. Any other Geographers looking to apply here?

Thank you!
Original post by ff3g08
Hi!

Going to slight panic mode about the whole application process - I have been writing my personal statement since March and still can't get it quite right! I'm applying for secondary Geography.

Main worry is about observation - I did the SEP placement but they could only offer me 3 days due to CRB restrictions as well as three days at another local school. I have a year as a teacher at an Independent school too. Problem is I am going travelling in 2 weeks and won't be back until February, so would only be able to do more days after that. Is that a bit risky? I work every holiday at a summer camp as well as in a Museum in the education department so have experience with kids outside the classroom.

At the moment my choices are IoE, Goldsmiths and either Cambridge or Southampton. Any other Geographers looking to apply here?

Thank you!


You have enough experience for a good application.
However, you do need to consider that you are away travelling during the 'hot spot' for interviews.
Reply 598
Original post by kpwxx
Sounds promising! I did PGCE (M) Primary at X with the specialism of early years and key stage one age range.

Sorry, talking about interviews is against the rules (see below)! And sorry mods :colondollar:, I had no idea as I'd seen discussions about it before!

What I will say is go to open days for the course if your can as they often have ex students there who can give more info about interviews, plus the admissions people themselves are usually happy to help and give more info- they like to see you being proactive (email them if you can't make an open day). Plus their info will be accurate for the year you're applying for. Also try Facebook groups for more specific info.

Xxx


[MOD EDIT: Interview discussion is against TSR rules, especially when it mentions the specific institution/company/etc which the interview was for. This can give applicants an unfair advantage when applying in future.]

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Oh sorry! I didn't know you couldn't write about interviews either! I'm not sure whether to start my personal statement now or later when I have more experience with EYFS.

Thank you for the advice!


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Reply 599
Original post by Fabay
Oh sorry! I didn't know you couldn't write about interviews either! I'm not sure whether to start my personal statement now or later when I have more experience with EYFS.

Thank you for the advice!


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I'd give it a go now but be willing to change... Or maybe write the bits about your degree, extra curriculars etc and leave the experience bit till later. I wrote a list of the key things I noticed from observations, then designated them to personal statement or interview or neither.

Xxx

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