The Chelsea F.C. Thread IV

Bro I understand your concern but it's a slight over-reaction.
Mata should be playing. He's been left out of the team for no reason at all and it's really testing my patience with Jose as we're not getting results, so the blame has to be put on him not playing Mata.
I can't stand Mourinho's blind love for Ramires. He's not good enough to be starting in our central midfield. Esepcially when we have the immobility of Lampard and Mikel, with Mikel lacking ambition in passing.

I would say that in the second half vs Basel, our approach play was good, but on 3-4 occasions the final pass was off and we easily could have created 3-4 clear cut chances.
Our problem is not chance creating IMO. The games we have lost (except Basel at home), we were pretty wasteful in front of goal. Against Newcastle, we had enough chances to warrant us a goal at least and against Everton, we should've been 2 up by the time they had their first goal.

Our midfield is not good enough. I'm sorry but when our team is worth 2-300 million in transfer fees, why are we getting dominated in midfield by Basel? I honestly think our main problem is that since we last won the league in 2010, we have been unable to control games in the same way due to not replacing players like Ballack,Makelele, prime Essien. Our points tally since then (71, 64 and 75) shows a clear dip from when we used to be getting 83-90 points each season when we had those players. There's only so much you can do with our team, especially with the absence of quality in the centre of the park. There's a few central midfielders out there we could buy. Ramires and Mikel should not play together, because neither can pass the ball forward well consistently. Lampard slows us down and shouldn't be starting (no offence, but he probably should have left at the end of last season).

Ivanovic - Terry - Cahill - Azpilicueta
Oscar and Ramires in midfield - also, David Luiz should play in CDM but won't happen.
Hazard - Mata - Schurrle
Torres

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I just don't like Ramires because he's a central midfielder and he can't

a)pass
b)control the ball well or
c)shoot

He has no composure on the ball, and all the aforementioned is what Yaya Toure has alongside pace and energy.

I'm not really a fan of what Mourinho's doing at the minute. Mata has done nothing wrong and yet he's being frozen out. Couple that with the fact that our results haven't been great (he's doing the bare minimum atm) and you have a concerned Chelsea fan. He's got the Oscar beer goggles on and he dare not take them off even if Oscar hasabad game.

There's also strong rumours that Mata is going to PSG either in January or the summer which doesn't please me. If they give us Pastore I may not mind although I'm not sure how out of form Pastore is seeing as he hardly plays

I agree with the people who've said Jose has some weird man crush on Oscar. We shouldn't be building our new style around someone who's still quite naive and developing. He cannot lead or spearhead our attack. It should be Mata who needs to be given regular games. It's stupid to judge Mata and KdB on the odd performance, give them a run and then judge ffs.

Jose is testing my patience with his stubborn and biased team selections, and the results are beginning to reflect this.

I agree with the people who've said Jose has some weird man crush on Oscar. We shouldn't be building our new style around someone who's still quite naive and developing. He cannot lead or spearhead our attack. It should be Mata who needs to be given regular games. It's stupid to judge Mata and KdB on the odd performance, give them a run and then judge ffs.

Jose is testing my patience with his stubborn and biased team selections, and the results are beginning to reflect this.

Do you guys think Mata will stay? He can only have so much patience.

I agree with the people who've said Jose has some weird man crush on Oscar. We shouldn't be building our new style around someone who's still quite naive and developing. He cannot lead or spearhead our attack. It should be Mata who needs to be given regular games. It's stupid to judge Mata and KdB on the odd performance, give them a run and then judge ffs.

Jose is testing my patience with his stubborn and biased team selections, and the results are beginning to reflect this.

Jam what's the score with your TSR account(s)? Why is your original one banned?

Against Southampton who play a high line and close down quick, we need a person who can pass the ball in all directions. If he doesn't play Mata I can't see whose going to thread the balls through. Lampard can't pick out a pass for his life now and will get run over by an energetic and aggressive Southampton side. Mikel is too slow at picking passes and will get run over. Why not try Essien for a game? Or even Luiz - I don't understand why he hasn't worked out that we need a midfielder to control the game.
Do you guys think Mata will stay? He can only have so much patience.

I fully understand your concerns tbh. However, look at the table, look at our fixtures and where we are currently, look how the other teams are doing with easier/similar fixture lists and we're not really in a bad situation.

That's why I'm not too fussed, we're able to take points away from home vs the big teams and can win majority of our home games(take City) and tbh, while we've looked rather jammy this season, bar 2009-2010 where we were dishing out 6-0's, 8-0's and that, has there ever been a season where we pretty much dominated every team without prolonged periods of edgy play and containing pressure?

The way I see it, the only team I'm scared of would be arsenal in their current form. But we can beat them tbh.

Oh, don't worry, we've talked a lot about ramires here. I don't like him, but he's a necessary evil until we get an actual central midfielder with work rate and passing ability. Oscar replacing ramires isn't the answer here due to his lack of strength and not being as good energy wise, he'd have to replace lampard for that to work. I don't think we should be experimental and put in de bruyne and oscar in either, I'd personally like it if he stuck to a first 11.

We struggled to get a player who could retain possession in CM in 2010, personally I think a mixture of carlo and the board are to blame. Which tbh, I can now see why Carlo was sacked(although he deserved another season), saying he'll play the youth like mceachran, kakuta and sturridge, doesn't play them, doesn't replace the old players with the signings required.

I don't mind too much we lost tbh, we tried a tactic vs west ham which worked well, then tried it away in europe to see if it had the same effect, if we'd started hazard we'd have won the match tbh.

I don't have any concerns, really, and certainly no issue with Mourinho. Give him a year or two of complete control and we will be the strongest side in the league again, imo. When Mourinho gets the conditions right - the squad, the tactics, the mentality - to fit him perfectly he will be unstoppable. I don't expect us to win the league this year, but I'm expecting us to slowly improve all year and then next summer he will buy whoever he feels he needs to take us to the next level. If you look at what he did at Inter it took him a little while to really get them where he wanted but when he did they won the treble.

I love Mata, but there are many great players in the world and only a few truly great managers - Mourinho is certainly one of them. If he decides to sell Mata I will back him 100% - but I doubt he will sell him in January, he'll want a full year with all of these players imo to figure out exactly who he wants to keep in the long term.

I love Mata, but there are many great players in the world and only a few truly great managers - Mourinho is certainly one of them. If he decides to sell Mata I will back him 100% - but I doubt he will sell him in January, he'll want a full year with all of these players imo to figure out exactly who he wants to keep in the long term.

You'll back your managers decision to sell your best player?