Should London underground implement women's only coach?
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Original post by ForgetMe
Why not just divide everything into several groups, e.g. buses for men, women, trans only; shops for each gender only; everything for each gender only. We should make cities, towns, countries for each gender only too.
You wait all day for a bus and then a trans one, a boys' one and a girls' one come along at once!
Original post by eternallyapril
Groping is most certainly a problem.
I knew someone would wilfully misinterpret: OK, groping on the train is not endemic. When it happens it's a problem but it happens rarely, I'd say, or at least nowhere near as much as those countries, like Japan, which have had to institute women-only coaches. Happy?
I wouldnt mind
As i will be the only guy who would go on the female only carriage to get their digits
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As i will be the only guy who would go on the female only carriage to get their digits
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Original post by Feline_Nymphet
Tl; dr. 
When did I say anything for anyone or any women? I literally only said "aint nuthin wrong wit a lil gropin" and put a smiley. Clearly it was dark humour/sarcasm. They can be both, who do you think you are again? Oh, on a rep quest. Have at it then, pal.
When did I say anything for anyone or any women? I literally only said "aint nuthin wrong wit a lil gropin" and put a smiley. Clearly it was dark humour/sarcasm. They can be both, who do you think you are again? Oh, on a rep quest. Have at it then, pal.
'Oh come on, folks, it's just a lil bit uh ass grabbin'
Implying that others should agree, or stop complaining. o.o If you were being sarcastic, you'd be implying you agree it's a problem, which from your replies to this thread you clearly don't.
People don't like being touched, ha ha. Bless 'em. Dude you're just insulting me for no apparent reason.
Original post by Guills on wheels
cheers mate should be revising though :/
This so much tho
I am procrastinating so hard
Original post by Maid Marian
But then we'll have a whole fuss about which carriage transexuals go into.
Why would there be? First of all, the term is transgender and NOT transsexual, and furthermore, that's a particularly demeaning way to refer to us - you wouldn't say "blacks", you'd say black people. Similarly, you would say trans people and not "transexuals".
I digress. There would be no fuss. Trans women would go in the women-only carriage, if they so desired. Why would there be a fuss? Maybe you could explain for me.
Original post by supreme overlord
'Oh come on, folks, it's just a lil bit uh ass grabbin'
Implying that others should agree, or stop complaining. o.o If you were being sarcastic, you'd be implying you agree it's a problem, which from your replies to this thread you clearly don't.
People don't like being touched, ha ha. Bless 'em. Dude you're just insulting me for no apparent reason.
Implying that others should agree, or stop complaining. o.o If you were being sarcastic, you'd be implying you agree it's a problem, which from your replies to this thread you clearly don't.
People don't like being touched, ha ha. Bless 'em. Dude you're just insulting me for no apparent reason.
Original post by Guills on wheels
what is your obsesh with people trying to get reps?
seriously who the **** gives a **** about reps?
you're right though, this is just some ****ty forum for people who are basically you.
seriously who the **** gives a **** about reps?
you're right though, this is just some ****ty forum for people who are basically you.
Original post by Guills on wheels
how?
SIGH. Seriously? If they make a women's only coach, picture in your little brain women all subsequently in one coach. Thus...men...will all be...in another, exclusively.
Original post by Feline_Nymphet
well...once there's a...a ...female...only coach then....inevitably..there...will be a ...male's only coach...
so....yea...
so....yea..."once there's a female only coach"
There won't be.
Mixed coach + female only coach (at specific times in the day)
That's how it works in Japan, so it wouldn't be inevitable.
Original post by supreme overlord
This so much tho
I am procrastinating so hard
I am procrastinating so hard
literally exam on monday, exam on wednesday. i'm surrounded by paper and books and coffee and I'm here promoting feminism like it's my job and I'm a ****ing white male for ****s sake. I mean, that should have no bearing on it but still, I just laugh. Who the **** do I think I am :')
but still. you seem cool.
Original post by Feline_Nymphet
SIGH. Seriously? If they make a women's only coach, picture in your little brain women all subsequently in one coach. Thus...men...will all be...in another, exclusively.
so you think that all women would go to the women's only coach? what if I'm on the tube with bae? is she going to go to the women's only coach without me?
who's the one with the little brain?
Original post by Feline_Nymphet
SIGH. Seriously? If they make a women's only coach, picture in your little brain women all subsequently in one coach. Thus...men...will all be...in another, exclusively.
SIGH. Seriously? If they make a women's only coach, picture in your little brain women all subsequently in one coach. Thus...men...will all be...in another, exclusively.
Wrong.
Not all women would go in the women only coach.
Is it hard for you to picture in your little brain that there are families who use trains?
Original post by EatAndRevise
Wrong.
Not all women would go in the women only coach.
Is it hard for you to picture in your little brain that there are families who use trains?
Not all women would go in the women only coach.
Is it hard for you to picture in your little brain that there are families who use trains?
Original post by Guills on wheels
so you think that all women would go to the women's only coach? what if I'm on the tube with bae? is she going to go to the women's only coach without me?
who's the one with the little brain?
who's the one with the little brain?
What kind of women's only coach is that then? No one said there was a choice. One would naturally assume that women's only would mean women are mandated to use it. Now this conversation has become even more pointless. If there's a carriage exclusively for women like the VIP section of a tube, whilst they still pointlessly can wander into any other carriage, then someone should have said that, because I certainly didn't fathom something so asinine. I'm glad you guys did.
Well the way that our society works now is that we don't ''officially'' give people privileges or cause them to be disadvantaged based on their gender, sexuality, age, race, religion, physical ability etc, no - we just give people privileges or cause them to be disadvantaged based on how much money they have. How progressive of us! /sarcasm
So the only 'solution' to overcrowding that is actually realistic within a society which favors the rich, would be for the tube to just do what train companies do and have 1st class carriages = paying extra for personal space. I personally would rather that didn't happen but I'm surprised that it hasn't been implemented on the tube because they could, if they wanted, charge really extortionate rates for first class seats, rake in a lot of money and cram more in cattle class.
No one is going to give you extra space based on anything other than how much money you have.
So the only 'solution' to overcrowding that is actually realistic within a society which favors the rich, would be for the tube to just do what train companies do and have 1st class carriages = paying extra for personal space. I personally would rather that didn't happen but I'm surprised that it hasn't been implemented on the tube because they could, if they wanted, charge really extortionate rates for first class seats, rake in a lot of money and cram more in cattle class.
No one is going to give you extra space based on anything other than how much money you have.
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Original post by Feline_Nymphet
What kind of women's only coach is that then? No one said there was a choice. One would naturally assume that women's only would mean women are mandated to use it. Now this conversation has become even more pointless. If there's a carriage exclusively for women like the VIP section of a tube, whilst they still pointlessly can wander into any other carriage, then someone should have said that, because I certainly didn't fathom something so asinine. I'm glad you guys did.
my god you're thick.
Original post by Feline_Nymphet
What kind of women's only coach is that then? No one said there was a choice. One would naturally assume that women's only would mean women are mandated to use it. Now this conversation has become even more pointless. If there's a carriage exclusively for women like the VIP section of a tube, whilst they still pointlessly can wander into any other carriage, then someone should have said that, because I certainly didn't fathom something so asinine. I'm glad you guys did.
Original post by Feline_Nymphet
One would naturally assume that women's only would mean women are mandated to use it.
Why would anyone assume that? That would be even more ridiculous than having a women-only coach. You seriously can't fathom that families use trains?
Original post by Guills on wheels
my god you're thick.
Well then share this endless knowledge of yours with the rest of the class so we can all be on your level. OP nor did anyone else ever specify that the women's only coach was an option. I figured it was segregating women from men. Now if it has selectively become, for the sake of winning an e-argument, an option and not mandated segregation...you need to clarify that.
Original post by PrinceOfOrange
kill all men would be easier and cheaper imo
I agree.
Original post by poohat
Only if we can have white-people only coaches/areas too. Either statistical discrimination is justified, or it isnt.
The vast majority of men do not grope women - yes some do, but most don't. If the existence of a small minority justifies segregation then "white people only" areas seems like an appropriate response to the fact that (eg) black people commit much, much more crime on average, even if most black people are not criminals.
It would actually be interesting to see the racial breakdown of Underground gropers - for example, certain non-white groups are far more likely to engage in street harassment/cat-calling even if the media usually tries to avoid mentioning this uncomfortable fact whenever the issue comes up.
The vast majority of men do not grope women - yes some do, but most don't. If the existence of a small minority justifies segregation then "white people only" areas seems like an appropriate response to the fact that (eg) black people commit much, much more crime on average, even if most black people are not criminals.
It would actually be interesting to see the racial breakdown of Underground gropers - for example, certain non-white groups are far more likely to engage in street harassment/cat-calling even if the media usually tries to avoid mentioning this uncomfortable fact whenever the issue comes up.
Firstly, I would love to see the statistics for each point you made.
Secondly, you contradicted yourself. You say it is not right to make a "vast majority" based on a "small minority", namely men, yet you proceed to make a gross generalisation of black people based on nothing more than your ignorance and further stereotype all "non-white groups". Unless you have witnessed every case of harassment and cat-calling and have witnessed every single crime committed to make an accurate judgement, I suggest you sit the **** down.
Original post by Guills on wheels
literally exam on monday, exam on wednesday. i'm surrounded by paper and books and coffee and I'm here promoting feminism like it's my job and I'm a ****ing white male for ****s sake. I mean, that should have no bearing on it but still, I just laugh. Who the **** do I think I am :'
but still. you seem cool.
but still. you seem cool.
i'm sure the women of the world appreciate you jeopardising your grades to go round in circles on an internet thread c;
Original post by Guills on wheels
literally exam on monday, exam on wednesday. i'm surrounded by paper and books and coffee and I'm here promoting feminism like it's my job and I'm a ****ing white male for ****s sake. I mean, that should have no bearing on it but still, I just laugh. Who the **** do I think I am :')
but still. you seem cool.
but still. you seem cool.
Oh my word, you're my spirit twin. No sooner had I read this that I was doing the exact same thing - I've even got Amaretto-flavoured coffee! Are you talking about AS exams? Anyways,good on you for fighting the good fight of equal rights!
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