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If mental health was instead commonly referred to as 'brain health'...

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Original post by Legendary Quest
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Original post by lustawny
...do you think this would help to end stigmatisation and prejudice once and for all?

I think the word 'mental' is causing a lot of the problems, in all honesty.


'Brain health' sounds a little ridiculous - they aren't actually classed as neurological conditions as they aren't directly linked to damage of the CNS (central nervous system) however 'psychiatric illness' could be an alternative to 'mental disorders'.

However, as someone else mentioned, the stigma will just move to the new term. What we really need to tackle is the stigma itself through education. People need to know the difference between feeling depressed and suffering from clinical depression; teen culture needs to stop glamorising and romantisising self-harm and suicidal thoughts; people need to know how to look after their own mental and emotional health the same as they do for their physical health. Only then will the stigma lose its power.
Original post by SmallTownGirl
Because the stigma comes from misunderstanding, ignorance and prejudice about different diagnoses. As well as the media's portrayal of mentally ill people as dangerous killers - not only when reporting news but horror movies where the murderer is supposed mentally ill and wearing a strait-jacket and video games set in asylums where the dead patients come back to haunt you. It's when people dress up as a 'mental patient' for Halloween. It's when people used 'psychotic' to mean dangerous, 'psychopath' to mean murderer and 'depressed' to mean sad. It's people who say they are 'a bit OCD' when they mean that they like to have their DVDs in alphabetical order so they can find the one they want quickly. Stigma is when people think that my mental illnesses are something that I can get over through pure willpower. It's when people say 'commit suicide' rather than 'complete suicide' or 'die by suicide'. It's when people say suicide is selfish. It's when people say self-harming is 'attention-seeking' without understanding why people self-harm and that actually if you're struggling with your mental health you might not know how to reach out to someone and that if someone is 'attention-seeking' (and not all self-harmers are) then that isn't automatically a reason to ignore their suffering.

Stigma is all this and much more. A 'rebrand' won't get rid of this. The only way to decrease stigma is to talk more and force people to understand.


The stigma comes from people being unable to understand and accept an illness that's "in your head". Mental illness is an illness in the brain, it's a problem in the functioning of a physical organ. I think calling it "brain health" would help people understand that.
Brain health would cover stuff like neurological illnesses too, which isn't exactly the same as psychological illnesses.

I say this as someone has suffered from mental illness btw
Original post by nverjvlev
'Brain health' sounds a little ridiculous - they aren't actually classed as neurological conditions as they aren't directly linked to damage of the CNS (central nervous system) however 'psychiatric illness' could be an alternative to 'mental disorders'.

However, as someone else mentioned, the stigma will just move to the new term. What we really need to tackle is the stigma itself through education. People need to know the difference between feeling depressed and suffering from clinical depression; teen culture needs to stop glamorising and romantisising self-harm and suicidal thoughts; people need to know how to look after their own mental and emotional health the same as they do for their physical health. Only then will the stigma lose its power.


All of this. Especially about the need to stop romanticising it. The other day, a girl in my sixth form was like, "I love things to do with mental illnesses, they're so cool." like yeah totally, being completely debilitated by your own mental health is just SOOOO COOL. smh
Original post by lustawny

Therefore, in the same way as you could stigmatise the word 'brain' in a negative way (mental, psychotic, madman, loony etc.), you'd also have to stigmatise the word 'brain' in a positive way (genius, geek/nerd etc.)


So you think the word "mental" stigmatises the phrases: mental arithmetic, mental challenge, mental agility, mental process, mental age, mental block, mental eye, mental test, mental chemistry, mental reservation?
Original post by sleepyspider
All of this. Especially about the need to stop romanticising it. The other day, a girl in my sixth form was like, "I love things to do with mental illnesses, they're so cool." like yeah totally, being completely debilitated by your own mental health is just SOOOO COOL. smh


Oh my life, yes! People think it's so trendy to self-harm it makes me so angry - it's like, do you think people want to have to hurt themselves to cope with daily life?? It doesn't make you 'complicated' or 'mature', it means that you're ill - smh

uh also people that make out like you're lucky for missing school or whatever like 'hey I'd love to spend the day in bed!!' - yeah I just LOVE getting migraines or being to depressed to actually live my life!!! it's my favourite thing ever!!!

uhhhhh these people need to be educated asap
Original post by SmallTownGirl
Because the stigma comes from misunderstanding, ignorance and prejudice about different diagnoses. As well as the media's portrayal of mentally ill people as dangerous killers - not only when reporting news but horror movies where the murderer is supposed mentally ill and wearing a strait-jacket and video games set in asylums where the dead patients come back to haunt you. It's when people dress up as a 'mental patient' for Halloween. It's when people used 'psychotic' to mean dangerous, 'psychopath' to mean murderer and 'depressed' to mean sad. It's people who say they are 'a bit OCD' when they mean that they like to have their DVDs in alphabetical order so they can find the one they want quickly. Stigma is when people think that my mental illnesses are something that I can get over through pure willpower. It's when people say 'commit suicide' rather than 'complete suicide' or 'die by suicide'. It's when people say suicide is selfish. It's when people say self-harming is 'attention-seeking' without understanding why people self-harm and that actually if you're struggling with your mental health you might not know how to reach out to someone and that if someone is 'attention-seeking' (and not all self-harmers are) then that isn't automatically a reason to ignore their suffering.

Stigma is all this and much more. A 'rebrand' won't get rid of this. The only way to decrease stigma is to talk more and force people to understand.


^^ this is unbelievably spot on
I wonder if perhaps someone was lacking in "brain health" for making this thread :|
Original post by nverjvlev
Oh my life, yes! People think it's so trendy to self-harm it makes me so angry - it's like, do you think people want to have to hurt themselves to cope with daily life?? It doesn't make you 'complicated' or 'mature', it means that you're ill - smh

uh also people that make out like you're lucky for missing school or whatever like 'hey I'd love to spend the day in bed!!' - yeah I just LOVE getting migraines or being to depressed to actually live my life!!! it's my favourite thing ever!!!

uhhhhh these people need to be educated asap


My school counsellor wouldn't take me seriously about my self harm and suicide attempts because apparently so many girls had gone to her about anxiety, depression, and self harming, and it turned out they were just saying stuff so they could get special treatment, like extra time in exams :unimpressed:
Original post by sleepyspider
My school counsellor wouldn't take me seriously about my self harm and suicide attempts because apparently so many girls had gone to her about anxiety, depression, and self harming, and it turned out they were just saying stuff so they could get special treatment, like extra time in exams :unimpressed:


That is truly lamentable. I am so very sorry. I have added you to my shrine list.
Original post by sleepyspider
My school counsellor wouldn't take me seriously about my self harm and suicide attempts because apparently so many girls had gone to her about anxiety, depression, and self harming, and it turned out they were just saying stuff so they could get special treatment, like extra time in exams :unimpressed:


that is the most ridiculous thing I have heard all day, suicide should be taken way more seriously than that - they're really going to risk someone's life because of some attention-seeking clowns? This is exactly why I never went through my school for counselling

hope you do manage to get the help you need :h:
Original post by nverjvlev
that is the most ridiculous thing I have heard all day, suicide should be taken way more seriously than that - they're really going to risk someone's life because of some attention-seeking clowns? This is exactly why I never went through my school for counselling

hope you do manage to get the help you need :h:


they cared waaay too much about their own reputation than about their students ugh

And thank you! I hope you've found the best help, too. as cheesy as it sounds, we just need to remember to never give up hope that things will get better :h:
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Original post by sleepyspider
Brain health would cover stuff like neurological illnesses too, which isn't exactly the same as psychological illnesses.

I say this as someone has suffered from mental illness btw


Yep. That's the issue.
Original post by apronedsamurai
That is truly lamentable. I am so very sorry. I have added you to my shrine list.


Thank you for your kindness :h:
Original post by sleepyspider
they cared waaay too much about their own reputation than about their students ugh

And thank you! I hope you've found the best help, too. as cheesy as it sounds, we just need to remember to never give up hope that things will get better :h:


yeah definitely, it's the only way to stop yourself feeling completely overwhelmed and helpless, to remember that it can get better :h: I'm on my way to getting help but the waiting lists for everything are so long :s-smilie:
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I doubt it - as much as I wish that was the case. There's no straightforward or quick solution to getting rid stigma attached to certain things; they take generations to change and take a complete change in mindset.

As others have said; the only real way to get rid of prejudice and discrimination are campaigns and awareness. It's through education that real change can happen.
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Original post by nverjvlev
yeah definitely, it's the only way to stop yourself feeling completely overwhelmed and helpless, to remember that it can get better :h: I'm on my way to getting help but the waiting lists for everything are so long :s-smilie:


the stuff about the waiting lists annoys me so much! i swear the mental health services in this country are getting worse each day :angry: just make sure that until then, you have someone to talk to, like literally anyone, whether its a friend, family member, or even someone on here or elsewhere online. and finding a creative outlet is insanely beneficial too

i really hope they stop being idiots and help you soon :frown:
Original post by Keyhofi
Saying you have brain problems infers that there is something medically wrong with you. Mental problems on the other hand infer something that isn't physical and can therefore be fixed with time.



Not really. And a mental problem can be medical?

I think the term "brain problems" is inaccurate though. Because a lot of mental problems are not to do with the brain as such, for example hormone imbalances. The term "brain problems" just brings to mind conditions such as brain damage caused by stroke, or an actual physical abnormality in the brain.

I don't think you need to make it sound more physical in order to increase understanding, I think you need to increase understanding altogether.

A mental illness that has a physical aetiology is no more of an illness than one with a social aetiology. By referring to mental illness as brain illness, I think you may end up reducing the significance of mental illnesses that don't directly relate to the brain, and so making those illnesses even more stigmatised.

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