iPlayer only? You will still need a license from 1 Sept.

Original post by neal95

😂😂 they wouldn't bother with that its more hassle for them than it's worth. In that time you could have removed your tv and actually they won't even bother with a search order. Stop being a good little deferent capitalist for a change

Oh look nobody gets prosecuted ever...

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Original post by 999tigger

Oh look nobody gets prosecuted ever...

The most they will do is make you pay the money in monthly instalments. Stop scaremongering vulnerable students who don't all have the cash to fork out for a licence

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Original post by neal95

The most they will do is make you pay the money in monthly instalments. Stop scaremongering vulnerable students who don't all have the cash to fork out for a licence

Its not the money its the fact you have a criminal record. They are rather inconvenient.

People are perfectly welcome to follow your advice.

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Betelgeuse-

Scumbag BBC - Cant believe they still get away with forcing people to pay them if they want to watch any form of tv

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Original post by 999tigger

Its not the money its the fact you have a criminal record. They are rather inconvenient.

People are perfectly welcome to follow your advice.

It won't be a criminal record..... Thousands of people come up for this all the time in the magistrates court, do they all have criminal records? On the whole, judges are very understanding and share the concern of folk who are not part of the elite and will try to assist them as much as possible. They will use all alternate means before dishing out punishments which are accompanied with a criminal record

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Original post by neal95

It won't be a criminal record..... Thousands of people come up for this all the time in the magistrates court, do they all have criminal records? On the whole, judges are very understanding and share the concern of folk who are not part of the elite and will try to assist them as much as possible. They will use all alternate means before dishing out punishments which are accompanied with a criminal record

Ok will go with your advice, nobody gets caught for licence evasion.

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Fullofsurprises

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Original post by neal95

It won't be a criminal record..... Thousands of people come up for this all the time in the magistrates court, do they all have criminal records? On the whole, judges are very understanding and share the concern of folk who are not part of the elite and will try to assist them as much as possible. They will use all alternate means before dishing out punishments which are accompanied with a criminal record

A lot get fines, but the courts do still send people to prison for it - more than 100 over a two-year period was reported a couple of years ago.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/29/bbc-licence-fee_n_4163939.html

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Original post by 999tigger

Ok will go with your advice, nobody gets caught for licence evasion.

People get caught for licence evasion, there is no 2 ways about it- let us be clear though that the only way you can be caught is if you invite them in and physically tell them to their face that you don't have a licence and are ripping them off. Fail to let them in, and well the end result of ending up with a criminal charge is unlikely to occur

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Original post by neal95

People get caught for licence evasion, there is no 2 ways about it- let us be clear though that the only way you can be caught is if you invite them in and physically tell them to their face that you don't have a licence and are ripping them off. Fail to let them in, and well the end result of ending up with a criminal charge is unlikely to occur

Unless they come back with a warrant, becayse they believe you do have a TV.
Ofc in your world this bever happens.

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Original post by 999tigger

Unless they come back with a warrant, becayse they believe you do have a TV.
Ofc in your world this bever happens.

Well in that case you simply hide or remove your equipment......in the vast majority of cases they won't bother with a warrant because it's more hassle and cost than you paying £145 probably. They will go and hound some gullible middle class student who can get mummy and daddy to pay

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Fullofsurprises

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Original post by neal95

People get caught for licence evasion, there is no 2 ways about it- let us be clear though that the only way you can be caught is if you invite them in and physically tell them to their face that you don't have a licence and are ripping them off. Fail to let them in, and well the end result of ending up with a criminal charge is unlikely to occur

They currently have the power to get a warrant from a magistrate, which judging from online sources, appears to be rather easier for them than it should be. Once they have that, they can force entry and examine devices, etc.

I would think overall though that this will be very difficult to enforce, as it should be quite a simple matter to obtain someone's license number and postcode. Perhaps they will try to impose some kind of 'per license' limit, although any system like that will quickly descend into hideous complexity.

If it's just an honour system, it will effectively be pay if you feel like it.

Reply 32

ChaoticButterfly

I mooch off my parents TV licence anyway.

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Original post by neal95

Well in that case you simply hide or remove your equipment......in the vast majority of cases they won't bother with a warrant because it's more hassle and cost than you paying £145 probably. They will go and hound some gullible middle class student who can get mummy and daddy to pay

You dont think they know about this? They also fine you up to £1,000 plus costs (average £170).
If all it takes in your world is tell them to go away and hide the TV, then how is anyone ever prosecuted?

153,000 in 2013.
They get the costs on top of any fine and the licence fee.

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Doones

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You can still watch iPlayer assuming you (or your parents) have a home TV licence and your device is NOT CONNECTED TO THE MAINS - i.e. it's a laptop / iPad / smartphone running off its batteries.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/watching-online-and-on-mobile-devices-TOP14

"Do I need a TV Licence if I watch on a mobile device?
If you’re using a mobile device powered solely by its own internal batteries – like a smartphone, tablet or laptop – you will be covered by your home’s TV Licence, wherever you’re using it in the UK and Channel Islands.
However, if you’re away from home and plug one of these devices into the mains and use it to watch or record live TV programmes on any channel or device, or to download or watch BBC programmes on iPlayer, you need to be covered by a separate TV Licence at that address (unless you’re in a vehicle or vessel like a train, car or boat). It’s the law."

Reply 35

Sharkbate633

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According to an article that I read that you still do and it explains why

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37226030

(edited 7 years ago)

Reply 36

username2705335

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I clicked on I have a TV license. I wasn't asked for any details.

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A Mysterious Lord

Guaranteed to make exactly zero difference.

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Observatory