Stuff tax £s up Nissan's backside to keep 'em from leaving - way to save the economy!

Our negotiators will have failed if they put the Germans in Dreamland while stifling our own economy. It's got to be both or neither; we both have to benefit.

It really hasnt. You just look like someoen who doesnt keep up with the news and is just backpedalling to find a way out.

Is it? Really? I'll just leave this here:
https://www.ft.com/content/bab284e4-9c1d-11e6-a6e4-8b8e77dd083a

Pay particular attention to the figure that illustrates how the level of most recent growth is equal to or better than anything experienced the year pre-Brexit and faster than predicted before any Brexit vote.

Brexit is a major threat to the German economy, you mean.

With 10% tariffs and a 20% devalued pound BMW, Bosch, VW-Audi and the like must be quaking in their boots at the thought of Britain leaving the EU and seeing their market go up in smoke,

while British goods hitting the German market are a net 10% cheaper.

Here's my prediction: The EU will decline to give Britain access to the single market without free movement; Britain will go its own way; Britain will implement a 10% corporation tax rate and screw the EU.

German brands sell as many cars in China in 3 days as they do in a month in Britain. As usual, you gravely overstate the importance of Britain.

And you forget the other goods. Germany exports 25% more to Britain than it does to China. The UK is Germany's third largest customer, and represents 7.5% of its whole export trade. If that isn't significant I don't know what is.

https://www.destatis.de/EN/FactsFigures/NationalEconomyEnvironment/ForeignTrade/TradingPartners/Tables/OrderRankGermanyTradingPartners.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

In fact, the UK exchequer would benefit significantly from a 10% tariff, which makes reduced corporation tax very viable. A 10% tax on import revenue instead of a tax on entirely fictional and artificially-low profits could be a very good deal for the taxpayer.

You do realise a 10% tariff in the case of cars will be paid by the buyer and is basically a tax so do you really want a 10% increase in tax on cars and more on other things like food?

. If Germany could make British made cars more expensive with tariffs, it makes British made cars more expensive for EU customers compared to German made cars so they get a price advantage.

Well, no. The UK-made cars are a net 20% cheaper, even after tariffs, abroad because of the devaluation of sterling, so are more competitive.

If there is a 10% tariff on cars for both sides, the UK government would have a net gain in tariff revenue vs Germany. This is not simply not a good option for Germany to take. Also if the UK government is to use this extra revenue to subsidise tariffs, or to offer financial support to the UK automotive industry, this would make the industry even more competitive.

To put it simply, it would be very foolish for the EU to impose a tariff on cars. The German car industry alone would lobby against it since it affects a very sizeable chunk of their business.

The tariff does not come from Germany, it comes from British buyers paying extra for imported cars and other stuff. WTO rules forbid governments subsidising tariffs.

The German car industry has already agreed with Merkel keeping the EU intact is more important than losing market share in Britian.

Tariff are usually mutually applied, if the EU apply it on our cars, we can do it conversely resulting in a net revenue.

While the WTO forbid subsidising tariffs, government support can be applied in other forms such as grants, which can be financed by the extra tariff revenue.

I don't think the German car industry had agree anything with their government. It would be very peculiar if they did. I think you are making an assumption to prove your point here.

There will probably be a free trade agreement on goods, but not on services.

Ah, ever the economically ignorant, under-educated Brexiteer, taking the short-term view that your little brain might just be about able to comprehend.

- Growth was down in the three months after the vote - and it's only at the measly level that it's at because the Bank of England -in pure desperation- has dropped interest rates in August, and said it might drop again soon
- Confidence in the small business sector is down
- Financial services -your biggest and only major industry- are starting to relocate
- The Pound is massively down, jacking up raw material, parts, and consumer prices which will soon hit through on consumer spending
- OECD just cut its forecast for UK economic growth IN HALF for next year
- FTSE rally is driven only by stocks of international, diversified corporations who will feel the impact from Brexit less and whose shares can be bought for cheap now thanks to your collapsed currency. Britain-focused companies aren't even up
- Unemployment is up

The list goes on pretty much endlessly - I just think your utter, deluded b/s has been sufficiently destroyed now and I don't want to waste any more time on you. You, like all Brexiteers, are the laughing stock of Europe already.

I will, however, leave this here for you, might give you some helpful pointers on how to survive the very tough years ahead:

http://inktank.fi/10-top-self-comforting-strategies-leavers-awaiting-brexit/

The article really doesn't state what you claimed. It doesn't mention that the German car industry had agreed anything with their government.

I'm not sure where you extracted this idea from.

The German car industry has already agreed with Merkel keeping the EU intact is more important than losing market share in Britian.

The article you linked demonstrates that the true situation is that Merkel is telling German industry that there can be no free trade without free movement, no matter what they want, and that German industry is reluctantly saying that her stance means that a hard Brexit is increasingly likely. It doesn't say that German industry has ceased lobbying for something different, not that it doesn't still want something different, not that German industry agrees with Merkel.

Merkel will just give them a few inducements to keep quite, just like the British with Nissan except the Germans can afford it.