Man, 20, dies following police pursuit.

You should copy this and send it to everyone claiming he died from an overdose despite the fact that nobody knows what was in his mouth or the quantity

They're not the ones accusing a potentially innocent police officer of murder without knowing the facts.

He shouldn't have put something in his mouth then. Typical criminal.

Gets what he deserves, if you avoid the law you should be prepared for the consequences

But they are the ones accusing a potentially innocent man of fatally overdosing on illegal drugs without knowing the facts.

And you seriously think that is comparable? ****ing hell.

Also, not sure if you're noticed, but they are the ones who have been suggested we actually wait for the reports on his death before jumping to conclusions. Whereas, the blm brigade...

I personally don't think its fair to call BLM activists muppets. Majority of the time they are fighting for injustice. Of course you will have some that are more extreme than others but that is in every pressure group.

BLM seem more like a hate group to me and there have been many instances of violence. Their bad behaviour has been excused because they are black. This cases appears to involve a seasoned criminal (at 20!) who killed himself because he didn't want to deal with the consequences of his actions. Nobody would give a damn if he was white, which is slightly disturbing.

Gets what he deserves, if you avoid the law you should be prepared for the consequences

In situations like this, you learn a lot more about the public's inherent view on black people, more than corruption within the police force.Police brutality, or the use of excessive force, is not news, at least, not to black people - who are imprisoned and receive longer sentences for the same crimes as their white counterparts.

But.. No point debating, it is what it is. Sheer lack of empathy is always depressing.

I think when you've grown up in particular areas in London, you can understand the environment children are subjected to that essentially leads them on the path. This notion that these people/criminals are inherently bad and the Met Police are inherently good, is quite... Never mind.

I'm sure there is racism in the police, but I can't imagine every police officer is racist. Assuming racism in every case involving a black person is bigoted in itself. Black people are probably more likely to come from a poor background, so more likely to be involved in crime.

An article from The Guardian does say there is a disparity, but I found this line interesting:

"One cultural difference, Done said, is a "greater propensity for black young people not to plead guilty than white young people". Black youths consequently received longer sentences because credit is given for early guilty pleas."

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2011/nov/25/ethnic-variations-jail-sentences-study

I think you get about 1/3 off your sentence if you plead guilty, so that could account for at least some of the disparity. I've also read that black people are more likely to resist arrest, which wouldn't help in sentencing. I'm sure there is racism, but it isn't always as simple as that.

What does that have to do with anything?! So because he was declared dead at hospital, that means that the cause of death couldn't have been due to the police officers actions? You're the one who needs to use their common sense love.

Of course it is comparable. They are jumping to potentially dangerous conclusions. Why is that funny? How would you feel if your loved one was accused of killing themselves without ruling out the possibility that someone else might have killed them? A member of the law enforcement might I add.

They are hypocrites for suggesting we wait for further investigation whilst coming up with their own conclusions. Who mentioned BLM?

I'm saying you are far too quick to blame the police. You clearly have an agenda.

Hypocrites?!

It's called due process.

but to discern patterns, commit them to memory, form concordant judgements, and to be prepared to act accordingly, is not only acceptable but entirely human and often useful (as a survival mechanism, quite apart from anything else). It's what sets us apart from now extinct protohuman lines, who failed to adapt to environmental/tribal threats

i predict a roti

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