Sports Illustrated has trans model in swimsuit edition

Sports Illustrated's swimsuit edition used to be a byword for toxic masculinity. Achingly beautiful women posing sexily in swimwear may appear alluring to unreconstructed chauvinists, but what about the sexist objectification of those, very well paid women whose modelling careers were turbo boosted by the fame? What about that, huh?

Last year a start was made by including a hot Muslima in a burkini. But for some reason that annoyed everyone. The vile men who usually bought the magazine, thought it wasn't sexy enough, whilst many Muslims felt it was too sexy.

Anyway, underneath the Burkini the Muslima was just a boring old cis woman. Not edgy enough.

So this year SI has made a much better decision. Don't you just love social progress?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/13/valentina-sampaio-sports-illustrated-swimsuit-transgender

Reply 1

username612415

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As with last year and every year before that, they're doing whatever they think will sell the most issues and get the most website clicks. Let people vote with their wallets and see if the sales it draws outweigh the sales it loses.

Reply 2

generallee

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They are in for a nasty surprise, then. Gillette tried it a year of so back and it led to an 8 billion dollar write down. Ouch!

https://campaignbrief.com/get-woke-go-broke-gillettes-toxic-masculinity-ad-via-grey-new-york-haunts-pg-as-shaving-giant-takes-us8-billion-writedown/

If they seriously think their hot blooded male readership are going to pay their hard earned to look lustfully at a trans glamour girl so as to virtue signal, they are too stupid to stay in business. In fact I hope they go bust.

Get woke, go broke.

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username5252758

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Original post by generallee

They are in for a nasty surprise, then. Gillette tried it a year of so back and it led to an 8 billion dollar write down. Ouch!

https://campaignbrief.com/get-woke-go-broke-gillettes-toxic-masculinity-ad-via-grey-new-york-haunts-pg-as-shaving-giant-takes-us8-billion-writedown/

If they seriously think their hot blooded male readership are going to pay their hard earned to look lustfully at a trans glamour girl so as to virtue signal, they are too stupid to stay in business. In fact I hope they go bust.

Get woke, go broke.

You are in for a shock when you discover just how popular transexual porn is among hot blooded males.

(edited 3 years ago)

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username612415

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Original post by generallee

They are in for a nasty surprise, then. Gillette tried it a year of so back and it led to an 8 billion dollar write down. Ouch!

https://campaignbrief.com/get-woke-go-broke-gillettes-toxic-masculinity-ad-via-grey-new-york-haunts-pg-as-shaving-giant-takes-us8-billion-writedown/

If they seriously think their hot blooded male readership are going to pay their hard earned to look lustfully at a trans glamour girl so as to virtue signal, they are too stupid to stay in business. In fact I hope they go bust.

Get woke, go broke.

I guess we'll see in their next earning report.

Original post by Trotsky's Ghost

You are in for a shock when you discover just how popular transexual porn is among hot blooded males.

Hey, it's not their fault if it just pops up on their phones!

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SHallowvale

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Original post by generallee

Sports Illustrated's swimsuit edition used to be a byword for toxic masculinity. Achingly beautiful women posing sexily in swimwear may appear alluring to unreconstructed chauvinists, but what about the sexist objectification of those, very well paid women whose modelling careers were turbo boosted by the fame? What about that, huh?

Last year a start was made by including a hot Muslima in a burkini. But for some reason that annoyed everyone. The vile men who usually bought the magazine, thought it wasn't sexy enough, whilst many Muslims felt it was too sexy.

Anyway, underneath the Burkini the Muslima was just a boring old cis woman. Not edgy enough.

So this year SI has made a much better decision. Don't you just love social progress?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/13/valentina-sampaio-sports-illustrated-swimsuit-transgender

I'm struggling to understand what the issue is. Are you just mad that they added one trans model to their magazine, in and amongst probably dozens of cisgendered women? I'm sure the a̶r̶o̶u̶s̶a̶l ability of readers to admire the beauty of the female form won't be affected.

I'm surprised anyone even buys magazines anymore. This is a total non-story.

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Ascend

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Don't be a snowflake.

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Napp

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this should make for an interesting sales report.
I mean, there's nothing intrinsically at odds with their sales agenda using an Mohammedan. Using a trans person could be a touch trickier to pull off though :lol:

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Napp

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Original post by Ascend

Don't be a snowflake.

Am i going blond or does her leg oddly resemble a sharpened pencil?!

Reply 9

generallee

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Original post by Trotsky's Ghost

You are in for a shock when you discover just how popular transexual porn is among hot blooded males.

As a straight guy I can't see the attraction, the old meat and two veg would get in the way but maybe that is just me.

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Ascend

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Original post by Napp

Am i going blond or does her leg oddly resemble a sharpened pencil?!

What, you haven't heard of the sharpened pencil foot fetish?

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Napp

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Original post by Ascend

What, you haven't heard of the sharpened pencil foot fetish?

It's certainly a novel one :colondollar:

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anarchism101

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Original post by generallee

As a straight guy I can't see the attraction, the old meat and two veg would get in the way but maybe that is just me.

If that's the problem, Sampaio has had "bottom" surgery.

(edited 3 years ago)

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Napp

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Original post by anarchism101

If that's the problem, Sampaio has has "bottom" surgery.

Every time i read that i keep thinking they've had some sort of work done on their fundament :lol:

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anarchism101

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Original post by Napp

Every time i read that i keep thinking they've had some sort of work done on their fundament :lol:

I mean, quite possibly that too, but I'd bet Sampaio's less unique among SI models on that front :wink:

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generallee

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I suppose it is no big deal in the great scheme of things. A trifle if you will. But life is made up of thousand upon thousand of small trifles, insignificant in themselves. Add them all up and they start to make something substantive.

I can see no-one on here gets where I am coming from, and if you don't it is hard, perhaps impossible, to articulate, let alone explain. It just feels like there is a calculated assault on masculinity itself from the wokerati. To go along with the assault on "whiteness."

When I see men apologising to women for being men, for their privilege and being part of the male patriarchy, I cringe. Just like I do when I hear people apologising for being white. The fact is that men are different from women, and I am not talking about gender, I am talking about masculinity and femininity. Back in the day it was OK for men to find beautiful women sexually attractive, natural, fun. Part of the joy of life. And OK for women to find masculine men attractive too. There was no such thing as a metrosexual.

Now we are told by a bunch of no nothings, that this is to "objectify women" to degrade them. To not treat them as equals. So even an American institution, the swimsuit edition of SI has to woken up. As I say it is a small thing, but now that too is clearly on the way out, life is a little less fun, a tiny bit less joyful.

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username612415

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Original post by generallee

I can see no-one on here gets where I am coming from

I got the point you were trying to make, I just thought it was silly. It's difficult to entertain the idea that it's trying to "get woke" in order to move away from accusations of objectifying or degrading women, when every other page will be the same women in swimsuits as it's been in every other issue for the last few decades. They've added a trans model in because they think it's going to increase their profits, that's the bottom line. It could be because the image of becoming a more progressive publication is going to make the issue more appealing to a wider audience in an age where print media desperately needs every buyer it can get, or it could be because this model wearing swimsuits is popular enough to bring in more buyers than it alienates.

Good for her, she looks fantastic :smile:

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SHallowvale

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Original post by generallee

I suppose it is no big deal in the great scheme of things. A trifle if you will. But life is made up of thousand upon thousand of small trifles, insignificant in themselves. Add them all up and they start to make something substantive.

I can see no-one on here gets where I am coming from, and if you don't it is hard, perhaps impossible, to articulate, let alone explain. It just feels like there is a calculated assault on masculinity itself from the wokerati. To go along with the assault on "whiteness."

When I see men apologising to women for being men, for their privilege and being part of the male patriarchy, I cringe. Just like I do when I hear people apologising for being white. The fact is that men are different from women, and I am not talking about gender, I am talking about masculinity and femininity. Back in the day it was OK for men to find beautiful women sexually attractive, natural, fun. Part of the joy of life. And OK for women to find masculine men attractive too. There was no such thing as a metrosexual.

Now we are told by a bunch of no nothings, that this is to "objectify women" to degrade them. To not treat them as equals. So even an American institution, the swimsuit edition of SI has to woken up. As I say it is a small thing, but now that too is clearly on the way out, life is a little less fun, a tiny bit less joyful.

May you explain how having a transgendered model in a magazine is an assault on masculinity?

My masculinity feels absolutely fine. It doesn't bother me that some US magazine included a trans model in one of their issues. Why should it? It's not like I buy the magazine and even if I did there'd still be plenty of other women to look at.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill, as always.