WHITE MAN BAN Straight white able bodied men banned from attending top equality confe
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Original post by wickedisgood
Racism against white people is not a thing. You can be prejudiced to white people, you can't be racist. Racism is based on systematic oppression and power structures that suggest that there is a race that is superior to others. White people have the power in society and do not experience oppression on the basis of their race, therefore it's not racism.
No, racism is discrimination based on skin colour.
Original post by Multiculturalism
Its the first time those people would have experienced oppression, I'm not sympathetic.
So oppressing someone for the "first time" doesn't count?
That whole thing has been misrepresented... They ARE invited to the conference, but there are separate workshops for minority groups. Like for instance, why would a black woman want to attend a workshop that was directly aimed at a gay disabled guy?? Why would a white straight able-bodied man want to hear a lecture that was about the difficulties of being a black disabled lesbian? They're not banned from the entire conference... people need to use their freaking heads when it comes to this stuff. Jesus.
Original post by LannaBanana
Why would a white straight able-bodied man want to hear a lecture that was about the difficulties of being a black disabled lesbian?
To understand their situation?
Original post by Multiculturalism
Its the first time those people would have experienced oppression, I'm not sympathetic.
That's disgusting.
"You've never experienced oppression before so you should experience it"
You can't understand how disgusting your statement is? What a hypocritical POS you are.
Original post by Josb
No, racism is discrimination based on skin colour.
"racismˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
noun
1.
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."
The reference to inferiority or superiority is where you get into the systematic power structures that racism is built on. For centuries white people have thought they are the kings of the world and have trodden on everyone else to try to prove that. They hold the power in society, and even if a black person was to stand up and say 'black people are better than white people', in the mainstream societal view, white people will hold the superior power and black people will still be distinguished as the inferior minority.
You can discriminate against white people, you cannot be racist to white people.
This is so wrong.
I'm a non-straight female; so no direct bias here - it's absolutely disgusting that the University thinks it is OK to ban a certain group of people from attending something, just because they haven't traditionally experienced oppression.
If ANYONE thinks this is okay, they have a serious problem.
I'm a non-straight female; so no direct bias here - it's absolutely disgusting that the University thinks it is OK to ban a certain group of people from attending something, just because they haven't traditionally experienced oppression.
If ANYONE thinks this is okay, they have a serious problem.
It is nice to know that the Lecturers' Union is just as ****ing retarded as the Students' Union.
Original post by Josb
To understand their situation?
Yeah and I'm sure that they'd be incredibly comfortable speaking about their hurdles in front of a bunch of people who don't understand. There's a time and a place to involve everyone in these discussions, and then sometimes people should be allowed to discuss it in a group with the people involved. Don't you think? Like the wider conference is about equality - everyone is invited, everyone participates, everyone gets their say. But then there are small discussions aimed at the people it DIRECTLY affects so that they have the chance to say things without needing to be mindful of others, or feeling like they can't be truly honest about things. It'd be the equivalent of gate crashing if everyone was invited. Just to say - I doubt very much that a nosy disabled man would be allowed in discussions that were aimed at lesbians either.
Original post by wickedisgood
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The Oxford Dictionary definition you quoted proves that you can be racist to white people, you absolute fool.
The definition 'belief that all members possess characteristics, etc specific to that race' - that can be applied to white people. 'Distinguish it as inferior..' can be applied to white people.
The definition and application of racism is NOT based off of history. Yes - racism has a long and varied history; but the application of it now is not based off of how it was used previously.
Original post by wickedisgood
"racismˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
nounThat is the Oxford Dictionary definition of racism.
The reference to inferiority or superiority is where you get into the systematic power structures that racism is built on. For centuries white people have thought they are the kings of the world and have trodden on everyone else to try to prove that. They hold the power in society, and even if a black person was to stand up and say 'black people are better than white people', in the mainstream societal view, white people will hold the superior power and black people will still be distinguished as the inferior minority.
You can discriminate against white people, you cannot be racist to white people.
noun
1.
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."
The reference to inferiority or superiority is where you get into the systematic power structures that racism is built on. For centuries white people have thought they are the kings of the world and have trodden on everyone else to try to prove that. They hold the power in society, and even if a black person was to stand up and say 'black people are better than white people', in the mainstream societal view, white people will hold the superior power and black people will still be distinguished as the inferior minority.
You can discriminate against white people, you cannot be racist to white people.
The stupidity of this statement is truly something behold.
You even give the definition and then you try so hard to say the definition is wrong.
Read the definition again.
LOL all these non white people whom's relatives have moved to a white majority country, for economic opportunity to have a better quality of life, whom have no doubt no allegiance to this country what so ever, moaning about white people and how they can't suffer racism because their ancestors didn't suffer slavery and such(Oh wait the arabs used to enslave white people). Though you can't trust the ignorant to be historically literate.
Original post by wickedisgood
"racismˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
nounThat is the Oxford Dictionary definition of racism.
The reference to inferiority or superiority is where you get into the systematic power structures that racism is built on. For centuries white people have thought they are the kings of the world and have trodden on everyone else to try to prove that. They hold the power in society, and even if a black person was to stand up and say 'black people are better than white people', in the mainstream societal view, white people will hold the superior power and black people will still be distinguished as the inferior minority.
You can discriminate against white people, you cannot be racist to white people.
noun
1.
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."
The reference to inferiority or superiority is where you get into the systematic power structures that racism is built on. For centuries white people have thought they are the kings of the world and have trodden on everyone else to try to prove that. They hold the power in society, and even if a black person was to stand up and say 'black people are better than white people', in the mainstream societal view, white people will hold the superior power and black people will still be distinguished as the inferior minority.
You can discriminate against white people, you cannot be racist to white people.
Does that mean if you're a white in an African country you can't be racist?
Original post by Retired_Messiah
I do not understand how this isn't seen as badly as stuff like this:
It's exactly the same thing, just under different reasoning.
It's exactly the same thing, just under different reasoning.
It's not the same lol
Original post by WhiteMan16
STRAIGHT white men have been banned from attending a top university lecturers’ union conference on EQUALITY.
The University and College Union (UCU) says it will only allow members who identify themselves as gay, disabled, female or of an ethnic minority to attend their yearly equality gathering.
Disability campaigner Emma-Jane Phillips, a member of the union’s equality committee, strongly disagrees with ruling and is working to get it overturned.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1248386/straight-white-able-bodied-men-banned-from-attending-top-equality-conference/
The University and College Union (UCU) says it will only allow members who identify themselves as gay, disabled, female or of an ethnic minority to attend their yearly equality gathering.
Disability campaigner Emma-Jane Phillips, a member of the union’s equality committee, strongly disagrees with ruling and is working to get it overturned.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1248386/straight-white-able-bodied-men-banned-from-attending-top-equality-conference/
Now thats what we call equality!
Original post by wickedisgood
"racismˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
nounThat is the Oxford Dictionary definition of racism.
The reference to inferiority or superiority is where you get into the systematic power structures that racism is built on. For centuries white people have thought they are the kings of the world and have trodden on everyone else to try to prove that. They hold the power in society, and even if a black person was to stand up and say 'black people are better than white people', in the mainstream societal view, white people will hold the superior power and black people will still be distinguished as the inferior minority.
You can discriminate against white people, you cannot be racist to white people.
noun
1.
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."
The reference to inferiority or superiority is where you get into the systematic power structures that racism is built on. For centuries white people have thought they are the kings of the world and have trodden on everyone else to try to prove that. They hold the power in society, and even if a black person was to stand up and say 'black people are better than white people', in the mainstream societal view, white people will hold the superior power and black people will still be distinguished as the inferior minority.
You can discriminate against white people, you cannot be racist to white people.
The regressive left everybody.
They're not banned from the conference. If I recall correctly, they're banned from breakaways discussion groups, rather than the main conference. So there's a conference that everyone attends, then they have breakaway groups where people with protected characteristics (ie LGBT, ethnic minorities and disabled) discuss issues affecting them. So yes, an able bodied straight white man can't attend the discussion group for disabled people, but neither can an able bodied lesbian black woman. And a disabled lesbian white woman can't attend the discussion group for ethnic minorities and so on and so forth.
The ban was introduced because, apparently, people without the protected characteristics were dominating the discussion groups. It makes sense to me.
The ban was introduced because, apparently, people without the protected characteristics were dominating the discussion groups. It makes sense to me.
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by DiddyDec
The stupidity of this statement is truly something behold.
You even give the definition and then you try so hard to say the definition is wrong.
Read the definition again.
You even give the definition and then you try so hard to say the definition is wrong.
Read the definition again.
Is there a reason you are using an ape gif? Are you trying to imply something?
Original post by Multiculturalism
Is there a reason you are using an ape gif? Are you trying to imply something?
You're the one who made that connection. Very racist.
Original post by Multiculturalism
Even if you could be racist to whites in a white majority country, the fact is there is nothing stopping whites from identifying as gay, disabled or female. As long as you don't identify as straight white male, you are allowed to enter.
Of course you can be racist to whites in a white majority country, you idiot. Racism isn't prejudice plus power or whatever malarky you likely believe. As for identifying differently, I really don't think they'll just accept so many white males identifying differently.
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