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    (Original post by MyHappyEnding)
    E.g.?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refusenik_%28Israel%29
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    (Original post by MyHappyEnding)
    'Only if' jews were human times bombs would the holocaust be justified
    'Only if' the ppl in the WTC's were all rapist would 9/11 be correct.
    'Only if' the boy was starving is it ok to rob a loaf of bread.

    When you use 'only if' arguments everything becomes just.
    Your examples are irrelevant.
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    (Original post by MyHappyEnding)
    E.g.?
    Many members of the Jewish society at my university. You used a personal example, there's my personal example.


    Your not actually serious in doubting the idea that some jews dont support Israel's policies are you? They are Jews, but they also have political views.
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    (Original post by MyHappyEnding)
    Well im off to go build a house on my own.
    Wish me luck
    erm ok
    So you don't consider personal liberty to be very efficient? You're right, let's just let the government take all our decisions for us. Or even better you should make them, what with your obvious superiority. Hey, may I please have a cup of tea? Or is it bad to drink caffeine this late in the evening?
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    (Original post by MyHappyEnding)
    Well im off to go build a house on my own.
    Wish me luck
    Ever heard of something called capitalism - the whole supply and demand theory?

    Are you sure your going to university??
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    (Original post by objectivism)
    Ever heard of something called capitalism - the whole supply and demand theory?

    Are you sure your going to university??
    Yer in fact to do Politics & Economics, on and im on a B and A respectivly in those subjects so yep think i know about supply and demand.
    Anyway that proves my point working together, you supply i demand - reach an equilbrium?
    The Commie guy wants some form of Libertarian New Right society
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    The Commie guy wants some form of Libertarian New Right society
    What commie guy? What he suggests is wonderful!!
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Minors have very few rights under the law. The reason is that they're presumed not to know what is in their interest. Do you think 18-year-olds don't know what's in their interest?
    I'd wager that a lot don't. Couldn't national service be encorporated into education? Just a thought.


    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Are you willing to pay an extra 10% income tax and see your earnings reduced by another 10% for it?
    Would you put a price on a fuctional society? And where did this figure of 10% come from?
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    I have a nasty suspicion that the dude saw my russian flag and assumed I was a communist. I am really getting aggravated with him. I'm not having a good day, my head feels dizzy, I can't seem to be able to argue properly and now some little **** has called me a commie.
    calm.
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    I'd wager that a lot don't. Couldn't national service be encorporated into education? Just a thought.
    Like at Eton?
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    Are you a socialist? Because they're the ones who want the government to make decisions for the people.
    Not at all i believe very much in Thatcherite policies, I'm not saying high taxes are good at all, but tax is required. I believed in a structred ordered society basically Conservative New right but then i disagree with the anti Globalisation views. I'll take the social condition of the Conservative New Right and the economics of Liberal New Right
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    Like at Eton?
    ...... You what?
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    (Original post by OpressedMass)
    I'd wager that a lot don't. Couldn't national service be encorporated into education? Just a thought.
    So that's 4 more years where people are funded by the state and not working? You don't think this will have an impact on the economy?

    Would you put a price on a fuctional society? And where did this figure of 10% come from?
    It's a figure often cited in the US. You don't think that building barracks to house millions of additional soldiers, paying officers to train them, hiring people to provide basic services for them, providing weaponry for all of them, and paying them is cheap, do you?
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    (Original post by TheVlad)
    I have a nasty suspicion that the dude saw my russian flag and assumed I was a communist. I am really getting aggravated with him. I'm not having a good day, my head feels dizzy, I can't seem to be able to argue properly and now some little **** has called me a commie.
    calm.
    You can do it. :p:

    Which city are you from anyway? St. Petersburg?
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    (Original post by OpressedMass)
    ...... You what?
    Eton has a cadet force thingy.
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    (Original post by MyHappyEnding)
    Not at all i believe very much in Thatcherite policies, I'm not saying high taxes are good at all, but tax is required. I believed in a structred ordered society basically Conservative New right but then i disagree with the anti Globalisation views. I'll take the social condition of the Conservative New Right and the economics of Liberal New Right
    How do you reconcile forcing people to give up 4 years of their life with supporting individualism (which is what Thatcherism was based on)?
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    You can do it. :p:

    Which city are you from anyway? St. Petersburg?
    I used to live in the Krasnodar region. Haven't been to Russia for 7 years though, London is the best country in the world.
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    (Original post by TheVlad)
    Eton has a cadet force thingy.
    So does every public school in the UK, and the CCF is volountary.
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    How do you reconcile forcing people to give up 4 years of their life with supporting individualism (which is what Thatcherism was based on)?
    Economic freedom but Old fashioned social values.
    I'm acutally revising the whole period for an exam on monday so i know my stuff on Thatcher thank you very much
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    (Original post by Bismarck)
    So that's 4 more years where people are funded by the state and not working? You don't think this will have an impact on the economy?



    It's a figure often cited in the US. You don't think that building barracks to house millions of additional soldiers, paying officers to train them, hiring people to provide basic services for them, providing weaponry for all of them, and paying them is cheap, do you?
    ~So because it's expensive its wrong?

    :rolleyes: Yanks
 
 
 
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