Whats so bad about 'New' universities?

Alright, I understand now. I just know that HNDs are validated by Edexcel now (in the first place, I didn't know, as they didn't say anything about Edexcel). How about HNCs and foundation degrees? Why are they validated by Edexcel and not the university like other university qualifications?

The issue about employment is much more than the university you attend. If that was the case then all those spaces on application forms for further details would be missing. Employers will want to know about what you have done in addition to getting your degree. What extra experiences you have had. Many employers will only be looking for 'graduates', maybe a level of degree will be specified. When you have your degree you've earned that tick on the mark sheet and they move on to other issues. That's where they distinguish between the candidates.

Some of the arguments in this thread just reek of snobbery - and it's nothing new. .

It's not snobbery, it's realism. No one is denying that, for certain subjects, some of these new unis appear to out-perform their more esteemed colleagues. However, in many traditional subjects- I'll use Law as that's what I study- the university counts MASSIVELY, and employers will tell you as much straight out. It is of course true to say that there are a number of other variables- experience, 'extra-curricular' stuff, sporting interests, personality etc etc. Those things all have to be in place too. But increasing numbers are finding that they have a degree which, in the real world, is not helping them one jot. It's not their fault, it's the government.

It's not snobbery, it's realism. No one is denying that, for certain subjects, some of these new unis appear to out-perform their more esteemed colleagues. However, in many traditional subjects- I'll use Law as that's what I study- the university counts MASSIVELY, and employers will tell you as much straight out. It is of course true to say that there are a number of other variables- experience, 'extra-curricular' stuff, sporting interests, personality etc etc. Those things all have to be in place too. But increasing numbers are finding that they have a degree which, in the real world, is not helping them one jot. It's not their fault, it's the government.

Some of the arguments in this thread just reek of snobbery - and it's nothing new. This whole 'new' university issue has been around for 50 years-when places like Keele were established it was said then, similarly it was raised with the technological universities (anyone want to criticise Loughborough in its areas of expertise now), then places like York were called the 'glass' universities deprecatingly. Then it was the turn of the poor old Polys, now the ex colleges. Every change has led to an outburst of snobbery by those unis already established. Incidentally there are many departments at more modern unis that out perform the more traditional unis. It's about what is relevant to you. If that's a new Uni then go for it and don't let snobbery get in your way.

The 60s Universities were called the "Glass Plate" universities due to their architecture as a contrast to the "Red Brick" universities, not out of snobbery.