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This is exactly why interviews should not be the main way of assessing. Surely within a few supervisions, one who is not accustomed to defending their povs orally - as they will have had to do this in writing at a level! - will acquire this skill.
It has just occured to me that Part 3 of the BMAT exam, the essay section is precisely defending your POV on a current affair, in writing. Wonder if this has any weighting in the decision-making.
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I agree with you but the thing is going to a Cambridge interview, you have to be mentally prepared to be challenged, and have your ideas ripped to shreds because that's what it's about-they want to push you and see if you can defend your point of view. And unfortunately sometimes it is the case that one has been brought up not to challenge an elder's pov, but in the context of the interview that has to go out the window.
My interviewer argued against me saying thatcherism wasn't fair, I put her in her place!
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This is exactly why interviews should not be the main way of assessing. Surely within a few supervisions, one who is not accustomed to defending their povs orally - as they will have had to do this in writing at a level! - will acquire this skill.
I guess my point is that these trivial matters should not be the things that separate equally suitable candidates......esp if these trivial matters are cultural! Clearly, those who are from a similar walk of life as the interviewer will have an advantage (albeit a small one!)
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how do u ppl know its gonna come 2moro?
somebody foned a few colleges an they all said theyd post it on the 30th...
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as far as i know the date we agreed on was the 31st, wasnt it?
Yes. But I am hoping, although there is a 0.00000001% chance of this happening, that Clare in all it's efficiency will post them out today for arrival tomorrow. But that's just me. 31st seems so far away...but I think it would arrive on the 31st.
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My interviewer argued against me saying thatcherism wasn't fair, I put her in her place!
GOOD. I bet she was just testing you.
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somebody foned a few colleges an they all said theyd post it on the 30th...
ah cool
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GOOD. I bet she was just testing you.
I bet she held the same opinion as you.
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I guess my point is that these trivial matters should not be the things that separate equally suitable candidates......esp if these trivial matters are cultural! Clearly, those who are from a similar walk of life as the interviewer will have an advantage (albeit a small one!)
Cultural differences are not trivial, I'm afraid. What one might perceive to be courtesy and politeness might be interpreted by an interviewer to be lack of confidence and awkwardness.

Those from a different walk of life might be more interesting, and thus more appealing to an interviewer because they are different, rather than someone who is similar, don't you think?
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Yes. But I am hoping, although there is a 0.00000001% chance of this happening, that Clare in all it's efficiency will post them out today for arrival tomorrow. But that's just me. 31st seems so far away...but I think it would arrive on the 31st.
just wondering how long it will take to get to germany...
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I bet she held the same opinion as you.
What, that she was just testing, or thatcherism isn't fair?
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Cultural differences are not trivial, I'm afraid. What one might perceive to be courtesy and politeness might be interpreted by an interviewer to be lack of confidence and awkwardness.

Those from a different walk of life might be more interesting, and thus more appealing to an interviewer because they are different, rather than someone who is similar, don't you think?
i would hope so...as i was probably the only soldier they interviewed...
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GOOD. I bet she was just testing you.
I'm sure; I mean she asked me to name a part of political history which interested me. I said thatcherism, one bloke said what do you think of it, i said the premise of working for your earnings seems just, then she said isn't it unfair because dumber people can work hard and earn less? (yada yada yada typical socialist). Then I said, it's the lesser of two evils, if we were socialists we get raped by globalization, and in fact, capitalism can increase average wealth because of the 'trickle down effect' (long live economic theory), ironically, those who were the poorest may become more wealthy in a capitalist, deregulated market than they would have otherwise, she then proceeded to write more notes as i said that.. BOOYA! :d
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just wondering how long it will take to get to germany...
A few days, par avion.
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I'm sure; I mean she asked me to name a part of political history which interested me. I said thatcherism, one bloke said what do you think of it, i said the premise of working for your earnings seems just, then she said isn't it unfair because dumber people can work hard and earn less? (yada yada yada typical socialist). Then I said, it's the lesser of two evils, if we were socialists we get raped by globalization, and in fact, capitalism can increase average wealth because of the 'trickle down effect' (long live economic theory), ironically, those who were the poorest may become more wealthy in a capitalist, deregulated market than they would have otherwise, she then proceeded to write more notes as i said that.. BOOYA! :d
Haha! Go figure.
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why cant they just email the verdict, they could use mail merge and get the job done quick
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why cant they just email the verdict, they could use mail merge and get the job done quick
I agree, no reason not to is there?
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A few days, par avion.
well maybe i can work out whats inside it by keeping track of this forum...
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No, because at the end of the day your degree still says BA/MA whatever, your college is unspecified. Colleges are a determining factor in the quality of your social life mainly And just where you sleep.

Hmm, it does make a difference, it just looks far more impressive, particularly Trinity, Kings and St Johns, etc. If you look at the list of prominent alumni, you see that it is fairly concentrated. Although, with that said, the degree is still worth a good deal regardless of college. What you study makes a greater difference in the empoyment world, and needless to say how you do in what you study
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Cultural differences are not trivial, I'm afraid. What one might perceive to be courtesy and politeness might be interpreted by an interviewer to be lack of confidence and awkwardness.

Those from a different walk of life might be more interesting, and thus more appealing to an interviewer because they are different, rather than someone who is similar, don't you think?
Sorry, I agree totally that cultural differences are not trivial. I think your first point reinforces my suggestion that interviews need to be re thought.

However, I think the interview is very focussed on assessing your 'teacherability'. So if your cultural norms are different to the interviewer, this may be interesting, but will clearly be a 'hurdle' for them - and depending on how biased the interviewer is (and we all know that it is very difficult for any human to 100% objective in such situations - we all have opinions!) will determine how big a hurdle this is.

So I still think interviews need to be re prioritised.
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