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Reply 20
Yeah we'll have none of that here.
Socrates
Neg rep for expressing an opinion. Well, well.

Oh come off it - I explained why and signed it, which is more than you'd get from many. I think you'll find that a vast amount of the neg rep spread around on this forum is for opinions; since people's opinions are, after all, what most of the posts consist of.

Zarathustra.
Reply 22
Zarathustra
Oh come off it - I explained why and signed it, which is more than you'd get from many. I think you'll find that a vast amount of the neg rep spread around on this forum is for opinions; since people's opinions are, after all, what most of the posts consist of.

Zarathustra.

I was just warning the others, I'm not complaining. It hasn't particularly affected my gem count. And almost ironically, my rep power has gone up.
Reply 23
Oh come off it guys. It's not like rep is a competition (certainly not a close one in my case:biggrin: )
Lets all carry on discussing philosophy and ignoring practical social problems.

Frege suddenly occurs to me- pretty influential dude. Invented predicate logic. That's got to be worth something to philosophers. Certainly probably the most influential thing in modern philosophy and some maths and computing too.
Reply 24
Calvin
Oh come off it guys. It's not like rep is a competition (certainly not a close one in my case:biggrin: )
Lets all carry on discussing philosophy and ignoring practical social problems.

Frege suddenly occurs to me- pretty influential dude. Invented predicate logic. That's got to be worth something to philosophers. Certainly probably the most influential thing in modern philosophy and some maths and computing too.


He's too recent for us to judge. His stuff may be important for what's been done
in the past century, but we can't know how that will be seen in the future. Take those neo-Hegelian guys who were the cream of British philosophy when Russell and Moore came along. British intellectuals at the time would probably have said they were dead important - now they only get mentioned as the environment that Russell reacted against.
Reply 25
It seems to me that influential can be split up into different catagores such as; personal influence, historical influence, social influence, direct and indirect infleunce etc

In terms of the above disscussion regarding whether or not Marx was a 'philosopher' or not, I thought it might be worth pointing out that the forum title also includes 'thinker' (admittedly only in brackets). You cannot deny that Marx was a thinker.

Just a thought; but it seems that it was not Marx (or Engels), or other socialist thinkers, who really influenced the communist societies of the twentieth century. While Lenin and Trotsky etc may have been committed Marxists, I find it difficult to argue the Stalin was. He was, it seems to me, rather an oppertunist who used the society created by the 1917 revolutions to gain power for himself not to implement socialist theory. So Marx, arguably, was not influential himself rather indirectly influential through a warped use of his theory.

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