Why are people so ignorant about suicide and depression?

So we should just let these people kill themselves?

hey are you calling me ignorant. Thats not nice

I will never feel suicidal because I am not mentally unstable, if I have a problem, I sort it out, I dont try to 'kill myself'.

So if a person you loved killed them selves, you would be not feel sympathy for them, and your life, societies life, is better off without them?
Also, you are assuming that there is help available for everyone and that it is adequate. I assure you, this is not the case.

For euthanasia, THOSE people have to go to doctors and let the doctors decide if they should allow them to kill themselves. Peoples would have to employed to do the procedure, and don't you think would effect them? Killing yourself effects everyone around you, assisted 'legalized suicide or not .

Do you not see how dumb this statement is?

We shouldn't call them weak or whatever it was because that shows absolutely no understanding of what they're going through. You make out like depression or schizophrenia are walks in the park it's ok just throw drugs at the people and everything is fine, yet actually it's not always. Mental pain isn't any less real than physical and your attitude stinks of ignorance. In many ways, in my experience at least, it's far worse.

I'd love for you to experience severe depression one day. Not only that, but I'd hope it wouldn't respond to treatment (as something like 30% of people with depression don't). Hell, maybe you'd be one of the lucky 1/5 people with schizophrenia who don't experience any relief from drugs, you can live your life in fear, with derogatory voices screaming at you 24/7 and hallucinations scaring the **** out of you. But it's ok, you're a big strong guy you'd pull yourself together, obviously.

The daily mail has an article on depression today, shouldn't you be over there commenting how weak those people are?

Let me ask a question to all you people who im debating with(a question you all seem to be avoiding)

Should we just let these people kill themselves?

If someone i loved killed themselves i would be sad and angry. Sad because they did not come to any one for help. Angry because we never got the chance to help them. It seems like a wasted life to me. As euthanasia is illegal, what you said wouldnt happen in this country.

So I was reading this thread http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?p=28902489#post28902489

and I'm completely shocked and appalled at some of the responses, for example:

"Suicide is for the weakminded"
"Survival of the fittest, he deserved to die"
"I have no sympathy with people who do this selfish act" etc.

How can people be so heartless and ignorant? Also, surely people should be more angry at the bullies? That poor boy died because of some cold hearted, foul people who were complete and utter cowards.

Depression is a chemical imbalance for Gods sake, I don't know why people see it any differently from any other illness. Having it does NOT make you weak in any way, no more than having any other illness does. Why the ignorance and the judgement?

The problem here is the bullies, surely more should be done to combat bullying and abuse?

Urgh this makes me ridiculously angry. People who've never had depression or felt suicidal have no right to judge.

Let me ask a question to all you people who im debating with(a question you all seem to be avoiding)

Should we just let these people kill themselves?

May I ask why you see such a difference between physical and mental pain?

I'm not posting on this thread anymore tonight because it's starting to piss me off.
But this is to clarify my position:
1. NOBODY should ever have to feel suicidal. It's a horrible way to feel, and EVERYBODY who feels like it deserves help and support and possibly medication if that is what they desire.
2. People who do feel suicidal are not weak.
3. People who COMMIT suicide are not weak.
4. People who have mental illnesses are not weak.
5. People who experience the pain of mental illness deserve empathy at the very least, and in most cases sympathy along with it. It is not their fault.

Anyone who feels suicidal or depressed or has any other sort of mental health issue should be treated to be best ability of the professional involved. This does NOT mean that if the person doesn't respond to treatment and commits suicide anyway, that they are weak.
People are well within their rights not to want medication. Some of the side effects are horrific. They aren't 'weak' either.

I think I covered everything there, no doubt with a few typos.

Its funny but somehow you managed to avoid answering the question (again).So i will ask it again. Should we just let them kill themselves?

Why people are annoyed by what you are saying is because you are ignorant on the subject of mental illness. Apparently these people can just 'get help' and then woop-dee-doo, life's good again. No. This isn't something that disappears with a therapy session or two--it will always be with you in some form or another.

Well done, you covered everything. Except the all important answer to the question: should we just let these people kill themselves?

Why are all of you avoiding this question? Are you politicians?

No, we don't want people to kill themselves. If there is a risk of that happening then they should be sent to a secure hospital and given the best treatment available to them.

How is it 'dumb'? Everyone is depressed at times. The aim is to sort out the depression. I would like to think that if i had a problem id try to sort it out rather than give up.

I hate trollz.