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FP2 Second Order Differential Equations - Practice Paper B

Hi there,

I am a gap year student so I have no teacher to help!

Part 7(C): Find the general solution of the differential equation in terms of V and X
Part 7(D): Write down the general solution in terms of Y and X

Given that y=vx
and that the answer to part C is:
V=Asin3x + Bcos3x + (X^2)/9 - (2/81)
Why is the answer to part D not:
Y=Bxcos3x + Axsin3x +(x^3)/9 -2x/81

??

Instead the answer is just:
Y=Bxcos3x + Axsin3x +(x^2)/9 -2/81 where x has not been multiplied onto the particular integrals?

Any help much appreciated!
Reply 1
Original post by kelsey.phillips
Hi there,

I am a gap year student so I have no teacher to help!

Part 7(C): Find the general solution of the differential equation in terms of V and X
Part 7(D): Write down the general solution in terms of Y and X

Given that y=vx
and that the answer to part C is:
V=Asin3x + Bcos3x + (X^2)/9 - (2/81)
Why is the answer to part D not:
Y=Bxcos3x + Axsin3x +(x^3)/9 -2x/81

??

Instead the answer is just:
Y=Bxcos3x + Axsin3x +(x^2)/9 -2/81 where x has not been multiplied onto the particular integrals?

Any help much appreciated!


I'd be happy to help but could you scan or photograph the question?

"Practice Paper B" in your thread title doesn't really help.
Reply 2
Original post by kelsey.phillips
Hi there,

I am a gap year student so I have no teacher to help!

Part 7(C): Find the general solution of the differential equation in terms of V and X
Part 7(D): Write down the general solution in terms of Y and X

Given that y=vx
and that the answer to part C is:
V=Asin3x + Bcos3x + (X^2)/9 - (2/81)
Why is the answer to part D not:
Y=Bxcos3x + Axsin3x +(x^3)/9 -2x/81

??

Instead the answer is just:
Y=Bxcos3x + Axsin3x +(x^2)/9 -2/81 where x has not been multiplied onto the particular integrals?

Any help much appreciated!


We really need to see the question to help

HOWEVER

is it possible that the y = vx substitution was only used for deriving the complementary function part of the solution, and the other part comes from a particular integral which therefore doesn't need to be multiplied because it's just any function you can find that satisifies the original inhomogeneous DE?
Original post by kelsey.phillips


Original post by BabyMaths
I'd be happy to help but could you scan or photograph the question?


Original post by davros
We really need to see the question to help.


Your wish, is my command!

Edit: I've done the question too. My final general solution for yy in terms of xx agrees with yours OP\vec{\mathcal{O}\mathcal{P}} :tongue:

y(x)=x392x81+Pxcos(3x)+Qxsin(3x)y(x) = \dfrac{x^3}{9} - \dfrac{2x}{81} + \mathcal{P}x\cos (3x) + \mathcal{Q}x\sin (3x) where P\mathcal{P} and Q\mathcal{Q} are constants to be found.
(edited 10 years ago)
Reply 4
Original post by Khallil
Your wish, is my command!


Thanks.

I agree with the OP

(and checked by putting y = (x^3/9) - (2x/81) into the original DE to get x^5 back!)
Reply 5
Original post by Khallil
Your wish, is my command!

Edit: I've done the question too. My final general solution for yy in terms of xx agrees with yours OP\vec{\mathcal{O}\mathcal{P}} :tongue:

y(x)=x392x81+Pxcos(3x)+Qxsin(3x)y(x) = \dfrac{x^3}{9} - \dfrac{2x}{81} + \mathcal{P}x\cos (3x) + \mathcal{Q}x\sin (3x) where P\mathcal{P} and Q\mathcal{Q} are constants to be found.


Thank you for your help!

Original post by davros
Thanks.

Thank

I agree with the OP

(and checked by putting y = (x^3/9) - (2x/81) into the original DE to get x^5 back!)


So do you both seem to think that the mark scheme is wrong?

I can't think why they would only multiply the x through the C.F and not the P.I !?
Reply 6
Original post by kelsey.phillips
Thank you for your help!



So do you both seem to think that the mark scheme is wrong?

I can't think why they would only multiply the x through the C.F and not the P.I !?


Yes, I think the Mark Scheme is wrong.

It's not unknown for Practice Papers / Specimen Papers to be wrong unfortunately - we've seen this before on TSR!

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