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Hi I am a little confused by this question (from June 2013 Paper 1R).

I get that x=-1 and x=2 when y=0 so I got y=(x+1)(x-2)

But when x=0, y=4. I'm not sure how to alter my equation to get this.

Thanks
Reply 1
Original post by Tilly-Elizabeth
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Hi I am a little confused by this question (from June 2013 Paper 1R).

I get that x=-1 and x=2 when y=0 so I got y=(x+1)(x-2)

But when x=0, y=4. I'm not sure how to alter my equation to get this.

Thanks

Because the curve TOUCHES the axis at x=2, the root is '.....'?
ie y=(x+1)(x-2)^?
As to aswer part a, you could simply expand out and read off a, b and c - but try to think of the relevance of the y intercept and what it means with reference to the constant on the end of the equation. Hope that helps.
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Original post by Tilly-Elizabeth
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Hi I am a little confused by this question (from June 2013 Paper 1R).

I get that x=-1 and x=2 when y=0 so I got y=(x+1)(x-2)

But when x=0, y=4. I'm not sure how to alter my equation to get this.

Thanks

I think you're getting a little confused with quadratics.
we have two turning points here, one at x=0 and one at x=2. What do you know about turning points?
you also have the values where y=0. If you expand (x+1)(x-2) do you get a cubic? The one at x=2 looks different - can you use that?
I actually just done this question about 5 minutes ago. You have a repeated root so instead expand (x+1)(x-2)(x-2).
Reply 4
Original post by Mr T Pities You
I think you're getting a little confused with quadratics.
we have two turning points here, one at x=0 and one at x=2. What do you know about turning points?
you also have the values where y=0. If you expand (x+1)(x-2) do you get a cubic? The one at x=2 looks different - can you use that?


No I know that (x+1)(x-2) doesn't make a cubic, I'm not that stupid. I need to add to what I have to get a cubic equation which is correct.

At turning points the gradient goes down to 0, that's all I know, I haven't done C2.

So basically I just square (x-2) because the curves turns at x=2?

Original post by Gilo98
Because the curve TOUCHES the axis at x=2, the root is '.....'?
ie y=(x+1)(x-2)^?
tbh, Im not sure of the relevance of them giving you the y-intercept soon as to aswer part a, you would simply expand out and read off a, b and c. Hope that helps.


Oh I see - so is that a general rule then? Where it touches the x-axis it's repeated and squared.
Reply 5
Original post by Tilly-Elizabeth
No I know that (x+1)(x-2) doesn't make a cubic, I'm not that stupid. I need to add to what I have to get a cubic equation which is correct.

At turning points the gradient goes down to 0, that's all I know, I haven't done C2.

So basically I just square (x-2) because the curves turns at x=2?



Oh I see - so is that a general rule then? Where it touches the x-axis it's repeated and squared.

Yep - now to finish up, you may want to look at my now edited post :smile:
Reply 6
Original post by Gilo98
Yep - now to finish up, you may want to look at my now edited post :smile:


Well when y=4 x=0 and when x=0 the other terms with x in will equal 0 so it'll leave y=4 so c must be 4.

Cheers :smile:
Reply 7
Original post by Tilly-Elizabeth
Well when y=4 x=0 and when x=0 the other terms with x in will equal 0 so it'll leave y=4 so c must be 4.

Cheers :smile:

Perfect
No problem :smile:
Where did you get the (x-2)^2 part from? I've never even seen that before in a C1 paper, or the textbook. Neither have any of my class.


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Can someone possibly proof read my attempt?


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Original post by Mutleybm1996
Where did you get the (x-2)^2 part from? I've never even seen that before in a C1 paper, or the textbook. Neither have any of my class.


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(x-2)2 because it touches the x axis and comes back up

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