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Are Oxbridge the only UK unis that are worth going to?

Been to see both unis, they have a particular zing about them that the others don't.

Oxford's location is better - different issue aside.

LSE is OP with internationals - don't know if this is a bad thing or not.

But all the others just seem like average state comprehensive secondary schools, whereas Oxbridge is exclusive which in my eyes makes it better.

I don't go to either currently/yet, wanted to hear your opinions on it.

OP=Overpowered btw
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Original post by Jay.Sean
Been to see both unis, they have a particular zing about them that the others don't.

Oxford's location is better - different issue aside.

LSE is OP with internationals - don't know if this is a bad thing or not.

But all the others just seem like average state comprehensive secondary schools, whereas Oxbridge is exclusive which in my eyes makes it better.


No, they're not. Here are a few also "worth going to": UCL, Imperial, Nottingham, Durham, Manchester, Leeds, Warwick and St Andrews.

That statement in bold is pure, unadulterated BS. The others aren't like average state comprehensives... certainly the ones I've mentioned are all prestigious and highly regarded in their own right.
Are you serious? Even by TSR standards this is remarkably stupid.
I don't agree with UCL.

Even Oxford... I think Cambridge is the only one to go for. But if they don't have your course, Oxford will be fine I guess.























/sarcasm
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Original post by FutureHeartSurg
No, they're not. Here are a few also "worth going to": UCL, Imperial, Nottingham, Durham, Manchester, Leeds, Warwick and St Andrews.

That statement in bold is pure, unadulterated BS. The others aren't like average state comprehensives... certainly the ones I've mentioned are all prestigious and highly regarded in their own right.


Aside from Imperial and UCL from those that you mentioned, ask your average person outside of UK this - and they won't even have heard of these unis..

Original post by Chlorophile
Are you serious? Even by TSR standards this is remarkably stupid.


Super serious.

Original post by L'Evil Fish
I don't agree with UCL.

Even Oxford... I think Cambridge is the only one to go for. But if they don't have your course, Oxford will be fine I guess.
/sarcasm


So for courses like med, maths etc. where the course is effectively similar just at a different uni - what would you say.
Original post by Jay.Sean
Aside from Imperial and UCL from those that you mentioned, ask your average person outside of UK this - and they won't even have heard of these unis..



Super serious.



So for courses like med, maths etc. where the course is effectively similar just at a different uni - what would you say.


For med? Any uni

For maths? Oxbridge, Warwick, imperial... Nottingham maybe others
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Original post by L'Evil Fish
For med? Any uni

For maths? Oxbridge, Warwick, imperial... Nottingham maybe others



So if in utopia if you had unconditionals from both ox and cam, where would you go.(I am aware btw)

Would you go Cam because offers based on UMS - which is generally harder than gcses+entrance test?
Original post by Jay.Sean
So if in utopia if you had unconditionals from both ox and cam, where would you go.(I am aware btw)

Would you go Cam because offers based on UMS - which is generally harder than gcses+entrance test?


Which course? I'd say Cambridge though
I'd prefer entrance tests tbh
I am in total agreement with you, m'dear. Oxbridge university is the only university that it is worth one's well-earnt cash. None of this rah rah oxford cambridge riff raff one often hearing about on the news. Good heavens, one could get hanged for saying such preposterous things! Certainly, Oxbridge University is the bestest university in the world, but my goodness, most certainly overrated chilché avant-garde entrée poisson noël blah blah sort of thing. Only the university of London metropolitan is the one most worthy of the fabulously prestigiously fabulous award of hell.

Psh. "Oxbridge".
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Original post by L'Evil Fish
Which course? I'd say Cambridge though
I'd prefer entrance tests tbh


any course.

law
econ
phy
language studies etc.

Original post by Blues Clues
I am in total agreement with you, m'dear. Oxbridge university is the only university that it is worth one's well-earnt cash. None of this rah rah oxford cambridge riff raff one often hearing about on the news. Good heavens, one could get hanged for saying such preposterous things! Certainly, Oxbridge University is the bestest university in the world, but my goodness, most certainly overrated chilché avant-garde entrée poisson noël blah blah sort of thing. Only the university of London metropolitan is the one most worthy of the fabulously prestigiously fabulous award of hell.

Psh. "Oxbridge".


I heard you only have to pass a blood test to get admitted into London Met.

Heck my 6 y/o brother would probably get in w/o doing any qualifications lool
Original post by Jay.Sean
Been to see both unis, they have a particular zing about them that the others don't.

Oxford's location is better - different issue aside.

LSE is OP with internationals - don't know if this is a bad thing or not.

But all the others just seem like average state comprehensive secondary schools, whereas Oxbridge is exclusive which in my eyes makes it better.

I don't go to either currently/yet, wanted to hear your opinions on it.

OP=Overpowered btw


This again :hat:

What stage of education are you at?
What grades do you have?
Is there a subject you're really passionate about?

And to answer the question... obviously they are not the only ones worth going to. In fact, they only really suit a particular kind of leaner so there are lots of highly intelligent people at other unis.
Original post by Jay.Sean
Aside from Imperial and UCL from those that you mentioned, ask your average person outside of UK this - and they won't even have heard of these unis..


And? Your degree is good for getting your first job and from then in most professions it's basically just a tick-box exercise (do you have one) and your experience is what gets you the job. So unless you're looking to get your first job in another country or want to get into the top echelons of international research, it really doesn't matter whether the people in X country have heard of your uni. And I don't think the fact that somebody in another country might not have heard of say, Durham, is sound logic for declaring it worthless. I'm sure the 87% of Durham graduates who got a job within 6 months would agree.

(P.S. I didn't go to Durham - just an example.)
Original post by Jay.Sean
Aside from Imperial and UCL from those that you mentioned, ask your average person outside of UK this - and they won't even have heard of these unis..



Super serious.



So for courses like med, maths etc. where the course is effectively similar just at a different uni - what would you say.

It doesn't even matter if some random weirdo doesn't know what your university is, the main point is that employers do, and that's what counts.
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Original post by arson_fire
Everyone knows only Harvard, MIT, or possibly Yale are worth attending. Might as well just do hairdressing at the local college than go to Oxbridge.


If you read the title I said UK - anyway everyone in US knows the only schools worth attending are the holy trinity - Harvard, Yale and Princeton.

Original post by TheWaffle
This again :hat:

What stage of education are you at?
What grades do you have?
Is there a subject you're really passionate about?

And to answer the question... obviously they are not the only ones worth going to. In fact, they only really suit a particular kind of leaner so there are lots of highly intelligent people at other unis.


AS

11 A stars 1 A.
AAAAA
Phy with maths.

what type of learner - only the smart people who get 4 a stars?

Original post by moutonfou
And? Your degree is good for getting your first job and from then in most professions it's basically just a tick-box exercise (do you have one) and your experience is what gets you the job. So unless you're looking to get your first job in another country or want to get into the top echelons of international research, it really doesn't matter whether the people in X country have heard of your uni. And I don't think the fact that somebody in another country might not have heard of say, Durham, is sound logic for declaring it worthless. I'm sure the 87% of Durham graduates who got a job within 6 months would agree.

(P.S. I didn't go to Durham - just an example.)


righteo

Original post by Dilzo999
It doesn't even matter if some random weirdo doesn't know what your university is, the main point is that employers do, and that's what counts.


but in usa..
what is my life
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These threads must seem like such a good idea until you don't get in.
Dunno, I quite like having a dentist.
Original post by Jay.Sean
Been to see both unis, they have a particular zing about them that the others don't.

Oxford's location is better - different issue aside.

LSE is OP with internationals - don't know if this is a bad thing or not.

But all the others just seem like average state comprehensive secondary schools, whereas Oxbridge is exclusive which in my eyes makes it better.

I don't go to either currently/yet, wanted to hear your opinions on it.

OP=Overpowered btw


Assuming 'worth' translates to value for money the answer is no.

The degree matters a lot e.g. doing history at Oxford is probably far worse in terms of career opportunities than doing economics at UCL. Admittedly you stand more chance of getting into something really competitive like IB if you do history at Oxford than if you say do history at UCL, but a lot of people who do history at Oxford struggle to get jobs after graduating, whereas hardly anyone who does economics at UCL would struggle.

So firstly subject matters a lot.

Secondly in terms of economic return: the return from doing a degree in terms of future earnings is generally higher at Oxbridge than at most other universities, and this is shown in a lot of studies, but just being generally higher doesn't mean it is not worth going to them, as the vast majority of people who go to UCL/ Warwick/ St Andrews/ Durham/ LSE and lots of other decent universities will leave and get fantastic jobs after graduating, while impressing employers with the universities they went to. Thus the return is beneficial for them in terms of their salary justifies the cost of going to these non-oxbridge institutions.

There are a lot of other reasons too such as Oxbridge has short 8 week terms generally, whereas other universities have longer terms and thus more chance to socialise/ have fun. The way oxbridge teaches subjects like languages is pretty awful (for a lot of people anyway) so a lot of linguists prefer to go to other universities with more modern syllabuses. Other universities also often have more updated syllabuses and sometimes even better departments e.g. UCL/LSE/Warwick all have departments that are higher ranked for research than their counterparts at Oxbridge.
Original post by Jay.Sean
If you read the title I said UK - anyway everyone in US knows the only schools worth attending are the holy trinity - Harvard, Yale and Princeton.



AS

11 A stars 1 A.
AAAAA
Phy with maths.

what type of learner - only the smart people who get 4 a stars?




righteo



but in usa..


No past a certain point it's less about grades and more about having a wide ranging, mature and passionate approach to your subject. So for example, my brother got into Cambridge and he already did loads of reading from a wide range of texts and was coming up with theories. Also, you have to be the type of person who would enjoy spending incredible amounts of hours on your subject per week. It really is very intense and you have to be able to juggle this with socialising etc. Lots of people are just as clever and have the same grades but they just wouldn't enjoy this level of intensity. You can get excellent tutition at other unis but it's more spread out as the terms are longer and there's less formative work.

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