Who are more dangerous to our everyday life? ISIS or our own government?

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To say it has 'nothing to do' with religion is naive. It isn't wholly religious, but the exacerbation of the conflict from uprising into civil war has been strongly influenced by religious factors. Syria has had sectarian problems for years and they have been the catalyst for bringing the country into the state it's in now. There are United Nations reports suggesting the same thing as far back as 2013 and probably earlier.

I certainly don't think it's better if Assad wins (I think Syria's screwed either way), and I also don't doubt that religion has been blamed for non-religious issues. I noted the pro-Assad swing with the same disappointment as anyone else who understands the news.

That is how the Syrian revolution was, NOTHING to do with religion. It was the people vs their dictator president.

I'm Syrian, the uprising from the start wasn't "Al Muslemeen yureed askat al nizam" it was "Al Sh3b yureed askat al nizam" - which means the PEOPLE. As you can see in the video, christians and muslims holding hands and dancing. My family was really upset when we heard Mursi became president of Egypt, we want the end of one sided religious bull... As you can hear in the video we say "Kul ilo kursee" meaning everyone has a place. Durz, kurds, alawi, shia, sunni, athiest. All equal, democracy and freedom is what we wanted. FSA fought for those ideals yet everyone called then terrorists because Assad has power over the media, to justify killing he called them terrorists, when they are the only people standing up for us. My family live in a primarily Alawi place called Jableh in syria, even the ALAWI wanted Assad gone.

Now please allow me to vent my frustration... THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE INSULTING THE SYRIANS AND SIDING WITH ASSAD because of the filthy ISIS who have NOTHING to do with Syrians. They are mostly foreign fighters who have found a new playground to train terrorists for THEIR interests and have seen a chance to hijack the revolution. I'M SICK TO MY STOMACH, I have family who have lost their lives. Yet people here talk like they KNOW what's going on since recently it has become about ISIS so all these newcomers only have one perspective: terrorism. An enemy is their friend. Assad is suddenly a star, loads of-ARGH just I wish people would stop talking like they KNOW what's happening. I've been following the revolution since the rumours started about it before it even happened. I participated myself in a protest with my sisters, cousins, uncles. One of my cousins was shot dead, RIP... It's been a while but it still hurts to think about it.

Syra was forgotten for so long and now that the super stars ISIS have made their fantastic debut of slaughter, people's interests are different. What are we Syrians in this world, why does no one care and help us. Bomb Assad and ISIS already... -:/

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ineedtorevise127

Original post by cuckoo99

Saddam needed to die... he was attempting genocide.

So do others in Burma, North Korea, Sri Lanka etc... Not to mention war criminals like Bush and Blair. But the problem is UK USA only invade countries when there are economic gains to them. Look what is happening in Syria why would the West help fund FSA? What does toppling Assad actually achieve? Natural resources. More profits for corporations also who can freely set up in Syria like what exists in Iraq today many oil companies which didnt exist under Saddam. UK USA other Western countries pretend to care about others then why dont you go invade N.Korea many people have been slaughtered there. Kim himself said to the USA he has weapons and not afraid to use against the West and what did USA say nothing but Saddam said I dont have nuclear weapons and that was proven to be true via the UN and guess what Iraq was invaded. Not a good example to set to others is it.

Reply 42

felamaslen

Original post by RenoHughes

The reply to question one is that yes, I do personally believe large companies who profit off criminals being sent to prison is wrong on so many levels. The fact of corporate greed is intensifying annually and no one seems to notice. You seem to be a person who has never been to or a family member who has been to prison? If I was to go to prison and realise someone was profiting off it I would be ashamed of how money-orientated this world has become.

In answer to the second question yes, I do appreciate the work our governments have done in the past such as the World Wars etc... But the entire point of this post was to see how many people were aware of the dangers the government pose to us at this time. This is meant to be a 'democracy' but we have no vote over what country we invade next do we? We don't have a say in how much are governments spend our tax on increasing military weaponry and personnel annually do we? We can all easily accept the good our governments have done, but we cannot sit back and deny the problems they cause everyday. I don't want to grow up and have to explain to my children why there is a homeless man on the streets just because we can't accept the fact our current 21st century system is failing.

It seems like an emotional reaction. Of course, nobody likes being in prison. But isn't that the whole point of it? You haven't even tried to prove that making a profit out of providing prison services reduces human well being. You've essentially said that you are offended by it, which is fine, but you don't have a right not to be offended (nobody does).

Can I just ask, which countries has the UK invaded recently which are worse off as a direct result of their intervention? You compared the UK government with IS. IS are the UK's enemy, and are closely allied with the UK's enemies in all of its recent wars. So if you're against IS, you should support the UK's wars! (Or at least, not vigorously oppose them.)

None of us like the fact that some people are homeless, but simply stating that they exist won't get you anywhere towards solving the problem. We've already tried things like socialism and communism, and they were rejected because they made things worse, not better. It's no good simply having a vision, you also need a good method to get there which maintains people's freedom and prosperity.

Reply 43

Chicken.M.

Well it's been a while since they've beheaded anyone in the UK so I think we're pretty safe here.

Reply 44

jama mj

in terms of danger in the uk isis probably poses next to no risk but the thought of British citizens going to fight for isis is worrying seeing as they would be even more radicalized and desensitized to killing people but on the other hand the government is notorious for capitalizing on the general public's fear of terrorist groups to push for more war and increase surveillance to further turn Orwell into less of a fiction writer and into more of a future predicting genius. i would say the government is not necessarily dangerous but incredible nefarious when it comes to furthering the agenda's of the military industrial complex and we only need to look at the Iraq war to know that if they get enough momentum not even a 1 million man march or protest can stop them from unleashing death on a massive scale, and David Cameron is pretty slimy politician.

Reply 45

Benjobox

Original post by RenoHughes

Um, hello? Our British governments have ransacked, looted and destroyed countries for generations?
Here are a list of 'just a few':
India
Iraq
Afghanistan
Mandatory Palestine
South Africa etc.

Also, remember our white European governments enslaved and brutalised an entire race for over 400 years, don't you remember the Atlantic Slave Trade?

I'm confused, are you trying to stick up for ISIS here? If not, I think you need to make clear your disapproval for that particular group, or we'll assume you take no issue with their extremely violent and barbaric antics against those who refuse to accept the vicious doctrine of Islam.

The imperalist era did involve us (or rather our ancestors) colonising pockets of the world - partly in the aim of bringing Western Christianity to the 'barbarians' (as we saw them.) I am not at all condoning this, but there are several distinctions between the British Empire (and individuals like Cecil Rhodes) and ISIS. If you fail to appreciate these, I don't think there's much point engaging in discourse with you.

British colonisation hasn't happened for generations - so it's not as if the current British Government supports it as a policy. And even having said that, the fact we had a policy of colonisation 100 years ago doesn't make ISIS' actions okay.

And finally, a technicality, the issue of giving the Jews a homeland in the form of Israel (around 0.1% of the area of the Middle East) after the Holocaust was a UN resolution - not one administered by the British Empire.

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