Jihadists are the real Muslims

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This is the truth. They follow the Qu'ran and Hadith by the word. They do everything Allah wants them to do.

The Qu'ran is the word of Allah, according to Muslims, and therefore cannot be questioned. There are numerous verses that are not context relevant and are always applicable.

Furthermore, Jihadism is a duty for Muslims. It is not something you can just decide to ignore or partake in (thankfully, most moderates don't and are not following Allah's wishes to the word).

The truth is that Islam is a disturbing, violent and controlling religion that if followed by the book, would lead you to being just like those in Islamic State. That is the problem with Islamic State, they are doing everything Allah asked them to do like mind controlled Islamic drones with no moral compass.

Allah even says that he does not see moderates as Muslims and actually permits true Muslims to kill moderates along with the infidels. This is part of Islam's method of self sustainment - if the weakest Muslims are killed off, if the infidels are killed off, all that are left are the radical die hard Muslims who will fight to the death in the name of Allah.

Its time we realised that in the Western world we do not have true Islam, we have Western Islam, which is a mixture of cherry picked Islamic teachings and 21st century accepted customs and social policies. This is not true Islam. True Islam is a 7th century backward ideology that is practiced by the likes of Islamic State.

Whilst the Qu'ran and Hadith in their current forms are around then terrorism will never ever go away. There will always be someone who reads the violent passages and decides to kill in the name of Allah. This will always be the case until we realise that the problem is with true Islam.

I am all for the Western version of Islam. Great, but the Western version of Islam is moderate, it is not self sustaining and when put up against true Islam, the word of Allah, it will fall victim to it as it has done. Moderate Islamic nations, often secular, fall to militant Islamic States because their version of Islam is weak. Allah knew this which is why he said to kill off the weak as well as the non believers.

It is fundamentally ridiculous to suggest that Islamic State are not true Muslims, when in fact, they are doing everything their God has asked, even kill in his name, to further the push for the ultimate goal, a true Islamic State under Islamic rule whereby people live under Sharia Law and eat Halal meat - a world with no disbelievers and a world where everyone lives under Allah's worship.

Reply 1

Use Err Name

Not sure I'd take advice on Islam from Nicholas Brody.

Reply 2

tengentoppa

The phrase "real Muslims" means nothing. ISIS are Muslims, and so are what I suppose would be termed moderate Muslims. There is no one authority on what Islam should be, and so each group are just as Muslim as each other.

The issue with ISIS is that it springs from a particularly poisonous branch of Islam calleds Wahhabism. Clamping down on this ideology in the UK and on its main sponsors in the gulf states should be paramount. That and ISIS are the most pressing issues with Islam.

The other issue is a problem with Islam in general. Unlike Christianity, it never had a reformation or an enlightenment. The beliefs are just as fanatical and medieval now as they were then.

It's because of this that the ideas of humanism, freedom of speech, freedom of religion etc. never took hold. Hence the protests against Rushdie, the Danish cartoonists and Charlie Hebdo. Hence the punishmnent for apostasy. Hence the primacy of religious dogma over secular debate.

Western Muslims have a dilemma, between the post-enlightenment values they live in, and their backwards faith. Some essentially moderate their religion on a personal basis and try to interpret their faith in a modern context, but a worrying number believe that the traditional interpretation of Islam should be applied. Obviously this traditional interpretation is at odds with Western civilisation.

For the former group, there is no issue. But the message to Muslims in the West who prize their faith over Western values should be simple. Leave, and go to a Muslim country where your views are better suited.

Reply 3

Nicholas Brody

Original post by tengentoppa

The phrase "real Muslims" means nothing. ISIS are Muslims, and so are what I suppose would be termed moderate Muslims. There is no one authority on what Islam should be, and so each group are just as Muslim as each other.

Sorry, I respect your opinion, but this is nonsense. In the modern world there may be no authority on what Islam should be but the authority on Islam, due to it being the word of God, is that of Allah. It is literally the word of God to be obeyed when the verses are to always apply, and to be interpreted when the verses are contextually relevant. Muslims cannot choose to disobey or questions Allah's for it is the word of God, it is perfect. Even ex-Muslims will tell you this is the case.

Under Allah's rule of thumb, anyone that does not subscribe to his word, is not a Muslim. They are either a hypocrite or a non-believer, and Allah has called on Muslims to kill them both in order to fulfil the ultimate prophecy of an Islamic State living under Sharia Law and his worship.

I suggest you actually go read the Qu'ran and Hadith before making any further illogical comments.

The issue with ISIS is that it springs from a particularly poisonous branch of Islam calleds Wahhabism. Clamping down on this ideology in the UK and on its main sponsors in the gulf states should be paramount. That and ISIS are the most pressing issues with Islam.

The problem is with the roots of Islam. There have been many branches but whilst the root stays violent and disturbing, some of the branches off it will also be corrupted. Muslims in the west, moderates, who I am happy to coexist with, are not living an Islamic way of life as Allah set out. They may be living an Islamic way of life in their eyes, but that does not make it true. Claiming to be something or do something does not make that factually true.

It is a simple undeniable true that by Allah's standards, some factions of Muslims around the world are living a more Islamic way of life than others. A lot of Muslims in the West, due to not subscribing totally to every word of the book, would be regarded by Allah as bad Muslims. In my eyes they are good Muslims who've adopted good Islamic practices, disregarded the bad and have also adopted Western ways. However, not every Muslim is going to do that. Some will want to please their God in the total form, to gain acceptance in the afterlife, and thus whilst the core text is violent and corrupted so will the branches that stem from it, and this is exactly why we have militant Islamic groups, corrupted political Islamic setups and so off.

The only fix is to attack the root and that would be altering the religious texts in the Qu'ran to make them less violent and disturbing and modernise them whilst morally pushing the same message. As the Qu'ran is the word of God and is perfect, that will never ever happen.

Reply 4

Abd al-khaliq

Original post by tengentoppa

gulf states do not have this branch of Islam u call wahhabism lol

Reply 5

Yaqeen2

Interesting stuff. You might be on to something here

Though i might like to add that groups like isis pop up due to a mixture of many reasons, including proxy wars, power vacuums, political and economic reasons, and militia infighting. Indeed, the majority victim of isis are muslims themselves