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BMO Preparation 2017/18

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Reply 80
they make you sign an NDA
Original post by Eulogy
they make you sign an NDA


Why ?! :confused:
Reply 82
Original post by etothepiiplusone
Why ?! :confused:


I was only joking.
Original post by Eulogy
I was only joking.


It's you. I should have known. :banghead:
Original post by A02
Maths. I'm won't to go into detail for various reasons, but the theory we covered was reasonably advanced in places.

What reasons? I'm sure everyone on this thread can benefit from learning what goes on at these camps.
Original post by A02
Maths. I'm won't to go into detail for various reasons, but the theory we covered was reasonably advanced in places.


Put yourself in our position - let's hear about the so called 'reasonably advanced' stuff
Original post by etothepiiplusone
Put yourself in our position - let's hear about the so called 'reasonably advanced' stuff
Huh? Do you mean you are unable to explain it or you'd rather not?
(edited 6 years ago)
Haha I was on it too, I'll tell you all. Basically we had 1.5 hours of geometry with Geoff Smith in the mornings, which did power of a point, triangle centres, the Euler Line, encircles, ceva and Menalaus theorems, the nine point circle, the Wallace simson line, to name a few.We then had number theory for 1.5 hours which was mostly about primes and divisibility, modular arithmetic, the Euclidean algorithm, and fermats little theorem. Then lunch for an hourThen 3x 1 hour sessions in the afternoon. Usually 2 of them were group problem solving sessions of IMO problems, and one of them was a learning session, for example functional equations, or Catalan numbers and double counting. It was basically maths all day long. On the final day, there was a 4.5 hour IMO style Olympiad with 3 questions.
Original post by jbaillie2002
Huh? Do you mean you are unable to explain it or you'd rather not?


I mean that I wanted him to explain it - and stop being so stuck up that he was on the camp and us peasants were not.

EDIT: I take back all that is italicised :colondollar:
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by etothepiiplusone
I mean that I wanted him to explain it - and stop being so stuck up that he was on the camp and us peasants were not.


Apologies. The use of the word 'our' in your precious reply suggests you were on the camp as well.
Original post by TheBigBrick
Haha I was on it too, I'll tell you all. Basically we had 1.5 hours of geometry with Geoff Smith in the mornings, which did power of a point, triangle centres, the Euler Line, encircles, ceva and Menalaus theorems, the nine point circle, the Wallace simson line, to name a few.We then had number theory for 1.5 hours which was mostly about primes and divisibility, modular arithmetic, the Euclidean algorithm, and fermats little theorem. Then lunch for an hourThen 3x 1 hour sessions in the afternoon. Usually 2 of them were group problem solving sessions of IMO problems, and one of them was a learning session, for example functional equations, or Catalan numbers and double counting. It was basically maths all day long. On the final day, there was a 4.5 hour IMO style Olympiad with 3 questions.


Tyvm, may I ask whether most people already knew the earlier, easy stuff, and whether most people kept up with the harder stuff?
Original post by etothepiiplusone
I mean that I wanted him to explain it - and stop being so stuck up that he was on the camp and us peasants were not.

What year are you in? What were your bmo scores? Just asking outta interest
Original post by jbaillie2002
Apologies. The use of the word 'our' in your precious reply suggests you were on the camp as well.


Np - 'our' meant you and I and everyone else not on the camp but interested in Olympiad maths
Original post by etothepiiplusone
Np - 'our' meant you and I and everyone else not on the camp but interested in Olympiad maths


Ah I understand now. Took your comment to have a totally different meaning. Apologies ahain
Original post by TheBigBrick
What year are you in? What were your bmo scores? Just asking outta interest


11 going into 12.

I am yet to qualify for the BMO - I got a merit in the senior kangaroo and a distinction in the Maclaurin this last year, ho hum.

You?
Original post by etothepiiplusone
Tyvm, may I ask whether most people already knew the earlier, easy stuff, and whether most people kept up with the harder stuff?

Everyone there is a major math lover/nerd, including myself, which meant that most people already knew the basic theory, such as modular arithmetic, pidgeonhole principle, some other basic combinatorial ideas, and some geometry. The main thing though was that everyone was able to figure stuff out for themselves, and figure it out fast.
The harder stuff was basically the geometry, and the generating functions, in that in geometry, we'd be shown a theorem, and then it would instantly be used to prove a further result, which would be used to prove yet another, and so on. New geometry material quickly compounded, which was hard to keep up with at times. Generating functions are just completely weird if you've never used them before, but being the conceptual difficulty, they're manageable.
Knowing extra theory gave an advantage, but because everyone there was bright, it didn't disadvantage anyone who didn't know the extra theory.
Original post by etothepiiplusone
11 going into 12.

I am yet to qualify for the BMO - I got a merit in the senior kangaroo and a distinction in the Maclaurin this last year, ho hum.

You?
10 into 11, got 30 in bmo1 and 4 in bmo2. Aiming for 40-50 bmo1 and 20 bmo2 this year (hopefully).
Original post by TheBigBrick
10 into 11, got 30 in bmo1 and 4 in bmo2. Aiming for 40-50 bmo1 and 20 bmo2 this year (hopefully).


Wow, good luck and hopefully you can balance BMO with GCSEs ( prioritise BMO :smile: ) next year.

May I ask how the Oxford camp selection process works?
Original post by etothepiiplusone
Wow, good luck and hopefully you can balance BMO with GCSEs ( prioritise BMO :smile: ) next year.

May I ask how the Oxford camp selection process works?
I've also got AS further maths which I regret taking now that I've been to the Oxford camp, all I wanna do is Olympiads! The selection process is based on your overall performance throughout the year in the olympiads I think. Mostly based off bmo1 but also off IMOK. For example, one person who got 60 in the Cayley but didn't do bmo was there, though he was disadvantaged due to lack of theory. I also got 60 in the Hamilton, so I'm not sure if my getting in was off bmo or imok
Reply 99
Original post by etothepiiplusone
I mean that I wanted him to explain it - and stop being so stuck up that he was on the camp and us peasants were not.

Please don't resort to personal attacks. Threads can quickly devolve into chaos. Anyway, the reason I was reluctant to talk about what happened at the camp is that a lot of the material we did contained questions which we were told not to post online. I didn't want to accidentally post something here and then be disqualified from future camps.

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