I don't drink... will this be a problem at uni?

What on earth is that supposed to mean, exactly? From my experience all relationships formed during periods of intensive intoxication have been meaningless in the face or more sober relations; this is, however, a relative issue. I honestly couldn't care less what other individuals decide to drink, that is all.

It's meant to mean that "from my experience" doesn't necessarily (and, in this case, simply doesn't) imply that you're speaking the absolute truth. You're not. I met a lot of my current friends while one or both of us was drunk; it sometimes helps you to bond.

"Any relationship you form when drunk..." was bound to be a bull**** statement right from the start, wasn't it?

What on earth is that supposed to mean, exactly? From my experience all relationships formed during periods of intensive intoxication have been meaningless in the face or more sober relations; this is, however, a relative issue. I honestly couldn't care less what other individuals decide to drink, that is all.

Yes, of course it was, but I'm not going to appologise because, again, I simply don't care enough what or how much people drink.

When did this discussion become about what or how much people drank?

I'm beginning to think it wasn't the inebriation that stopped you forming lasting friendships with these people. You seem to have a vendetta against drunkenness; simply saying "it is not the place of any other individual to assume a 'moral highground'" doesn't actually alter the fact that, in the very same post, you called drinkers "insecure" and false, called their relationships with many of their friends "transient and meaningless", and implied that their ability to socialise was "hampered". Not to be overly rude here, but is there any chance you could **** off with all that? I don't appreciate being told what a crap person I am because I enjoy (the effects of) a couple of pints twice a week; in fact it's bloody offensive, given that none of this stuff you said is actually true.

I am a tee-totaller for personal reasons, but I'm a bit worried that I will start drinking when I go to uni because of the huge drinking culuture that there is. I think it's common that people who don't drink alcohol are thought of as boring... it's not true! We just know how to have a great time without getting wasted

Most teetotal people are boring. Not all, but most. They dont like letting go, dont like letting their defences down, and as a result are less interesting individuals.

Same applies to drugs, though I can forgive people their ignorance in the face of the government "drugs education" (ONE ECSTASY TABLET WILL KILL YOU!!!!!!!!11111one) propeganda machine, or their fear of police intervention.

Isn't that just a little bit generalistic? I am certain that no individual's personality can be judged entirely on whether or not they drink alcohol.

To me this is like joining a rugby team and then saying "but I know how to have fun without playing rugby!!"; no ****, so does everyone else, but rugby is what we are all playing.

Its an observation not a prejudice. I dont use it to judge people, but in my experience it holds the vast majority of the time (exception; religious or health reasons). Its the attitude that is behind it that I find boring.

I choose not to drink but have lots of friends who do. I have been through the being pressured to drink thing, I just smile and say I don't like the taste. To be honest I think I'm often included because I don't drink, sober driver who isn't resentful about it. Can I just ask drinkers to consider why some people choose not to drink. I don't like people being superior or pushing their views and both sides do this. I don't drink because of a childhood blighted by drink, the loss of a parent I adored because even with a diseased liver he drank knowing that a wife who loved him and children who needed him would be left behind. None of my friends know that. I'm not ashamed of my father but I just think if I talked about it people would assume I was taking the moral highground but it isn't that. I think some people are addictive personalities, I don't know if its scientific but I feel it is true and it seems to run in my family, not just with alcohol but with other things as well. So I suppose I don't drink out of fear, if you don't understand you probably haven't seen people with liver disease at the end of their lives. I am not judging people if you can drink and enjoy it and not let it ruin your life I am happy for you. I don't need sympathy just toleration.

Ah, but the main focus of a rugby club will be rugby and the main focus of university is not alcohol.

I know that you're a troll but I wanted to say it anyway.

I choose not to drink but have lots of friends who do. I have been through the being pressured to drink thing, I just smile and say I don't like the taste. To be honest I think I'm often included because I don't drink, sober driver who isn't resentful about it. Can I just ask drinkers to consider why some people choose not to drink. I don't like people being superior or pushing their views and both sides do this. I don't drink because of a childhood blighted by drink, the loss of a parent I adored because even with a diseased liver he drank knowing that a wife who loved him and children who needed him would be left behind. None of my friends know that. I'm not ashamed of my father but I just think if I talked about it people would assume I was taking the moral highground but it isn't that. I think some people are addictive personalities, I don't know if its scientific but I feel it is true and it seems to run in my family, not just with alcohol but with other things as well. So I suppose I don't drink out of fear, if you don't understand you probably haven't seen people with liver disease at the end of their lives. I am not judging people if you can drink and enjoy it and not let it ruin your life I am happy for you. I don't need sympathy just toleration.

What is worse; A ' wasted ' youth or a youth wasted?

Some folks think that they drink, therefore they are but they are drowning in their own shallowness, that is all.

Now THAT is a good reason, and I'm sure you are a great person. But you are the exception to the rule.