Austrian ban on full-face veil in public places comes into force

Muslim groups have condemned the law, saying just a tiny minority of Austrian Muslims wear full-face veils.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41457427

The law also prohibits surgical masks, ski masks, clown make-up, as well as the balaclavas preferred by black block protesters.

Legislation banning full-face Muslim veils in public spaces has gone into effect in Austria. The government says the law, which says faces must be visible from the hairline to the chin, is about protecting Austrian values.
It comes ahead of a general election later this month which could see gains by the far-right Freedom Party. Muslim groups have condemned the law, saying just a tiny minority of Austrian Muslims wear full-face veils.


Will the UK follow?

Well at least Neighbours and Home and Away fans will be happy that none of their characters beautiful faces will be obscured by a veil. Most of the characters are top models anyway with unblemished looks, no glasses or spots.
Plus a veil is a fire hazard with all those barbecues they have, after all it's spring there while we here descend into the doom and gloom of autumn.

So what if there's a big terror attack and there's no space left in the hospital and the surgeon has to go and perform surgery on the victims outside because there is no other space, is he still going to get arrested?

You know, I thought I had heard every argument against legislation prohibiting face-covering in public.
Well done you!

I'm sure that, as with most modern legislation, the exceptions will have been considered and allowed for. Like full-face motorcycle helmets, for instrance. Or welders' masks. Allowed when serving their designed H&S purpose in the context of potential risk, forbidden when not.
See, that wasn't too difficult, was it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41457427

The law also prohibits surgical masks, ski masks, clown make-up, as well as the balaclavas preferred by black block protesters.

Legislation banning full-face Muslim veils in public spaces has gone into effect in Austria. The government says the law, which says faces must be visible from the hairline to the chin, is about protecting Austrian values.
It comes ahead of a general election later this month which could see gains by the far-right Freedom Party. Muslim groups have condemned the law, saying just a tiny minority of Austrian Muslims wear full-face veils.


Will the UK follow?

Well these guys are basically German as well, so i don't see it coming as a surprise. At the end of the day, i feel they're doing something stupid though, imagine some chemicals come out loose and this law prohibits wearing gas masks and sh*t - but then again they probably got exceptions i guess. Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

On a side note, England, i doubt would take a similar approach, since we got ourselves more Muslims then Austria, as well as a Muslim mayor of London. Unless necessary i doubt he wouldn't let people who wish to cover their face due to a scar or appearances sake, not cover up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41457427



Will the UK follow?

The need for identification, as well as cultural influence works everyday, while I haven't heard of any serious gas attack in Australia during the last 10 years.
I did heard however about police having problems with identification of speeding women who refused to remove niqabs from their faces.

Homeboy, i think you've confused Australia (English speaking country) with Austria (German speaking country).

As for the speeding ticket business - that also doesn't come as a surprise, since not many people are willing to pay fines voluntarily.

As for the speeding ticket business - that also doesn't come as a surprise, since not many people are willing to pay fines voluntarily.

Yeap, I've just came back from work and it's after midnight.



Don't play naive. People get deported because they are so fanatic or have such a bad opinion about infidels, that they refuse to remove niquab before immigration officers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLkwm8z5A7s

Fanatics must be stopped. If they can't live with secular society, then they don't belong here.

Oh, lol. Fare enough with the officer business, but on the other hand bro, we live in a country that promotes democracy

- doesn't that mean the right of freedom of speech, freedom of dress and freedom of religion.

The word "promotes" hits the spot. Promotion of democracy is a problem. Because democracy is something that evolved for hundreds of years in the West. I'm not talking about ancient Greek democracy, because that tradition was discontinued, but about elements of democracy present among European tribes since the dark ages, and evolving in many countries
European democracy has a background in very old habits of our nations, as well as the religious reformation. There would not be modern democracy without the reformation. Promotion of this political system makes no sense in the Middle East, there is absolutely no cultural background to support it out there.


Does the freedom of speech, dress and religion allows you to praise Hitler and Stalin, dress like an SS-man, or invent a religion which says that you must eat other people?

It's an old paradox, that freedom of religion requires the enemies of freedom to be removed, before they will remove the freedom.
If a society is built on freedom of religion, and state does not fight those who are enemies of this freedom, this means, that they will destroy the state as soon as they can.
There is no freedom for the enemies of freedom. It's one of the basic ideas of liberalism. You maybe a social-liberal, socialist, conservatist, christian democrat, or whatever else, but no secular society can last if this rule is not respected.

That may sound though, but if you look through European history from the reformation, up to modern times, it was exactly that rule, which stopped the religious wars on our continent.

And these muslims would probably agree with me:
https://youtu.be/C2zkoq7rk3g
https://youtu.be/hZZMXV_PRXk

So freedom doesn't always work out properly, if you don't tip the scales to it's side. (Lol your probably thinking what type of retard have i come across 😅)