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any help would be greatly appreciated
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hi thanks for replying

i still dont understand how to do it
Original post by man111111
hi thanks for replying

i still dont understand how to do it


Do you not understand conservation of momentum? If you don't, see page 12 of http://www.mrbartonmaths.com/resources/a%2520level%2520revision/M1_Not_Formula_Book.pdf. Note that here we are not using momentum to solve a collisions problem, but just in a more general context.
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Original post by Prasiortle
Do you not understand conservation of momentum? If you don't, see page 12 of http://www.mrbartonmaths.com/resources/a%2520level%2520revision/M1_Not_Formula_Book.pdf. Note that here we are not using momentum to solve a collisions problem, but just in a more general context.


thanks for replying
yes i do understand it but i just dont know how to answer this specific qs and i dont really understand the markscheme
Original post by man111111
thanks for replying
yes i do understand it but i just dont know how to answer this specific qs and i dont really understand the markscheme


Well, write down the masses and velocities...
Reply 7
Original post by Prasiortle
Well, write down the masses and velocities...


i dont see what im doing wrong
momentum before = momentum after
(-0.4)(100)+(2)(20)= (80)(v)+(20)(2)+(20)(2)

v= -1

can you tell me what im dong wrong
Original post by man111111
i dont see what im doing wrong
momentum before = momentum after
(-0.4)(100)+(2)(20)= (80)(v)+(20)(2)+(20)(2)

v= -1

can you tell me what im dong wrong


You're not using the relative velocity correctly - it's 2 ms^-1 relative to the trolley, so go and look up what relative velocity means if you've forgotten.
a) 0.4ms^-1 - I hope you got this

So we know that the trolley and the man and the sandbag are moving with (100kg) are moving with 0.4ms^-1
If the sandbag travels 2ms^-1 relative to the trolley/man which travels opposite to the bag, then what will the speed of the sandbag be?
So work out the momentum before *
Then work out the momentum after**
And equate them.
Reply with your answers and I can try to guide you with your solution
(edited 5 years ago)
Original post by UncookedYogurt
a) 0.4ms^-1 - I hope you got this

So we know that the trolley and the man and the sandbag are moving with (100kg) are moving with 0.4ms^-1
If the sandbag travels 2ms^-1 relative to the trolley/man which travels opposite to the bag, then what will the speed of the sandbag be?
So work out the momentum before *
Then work out the momentum after**
And equate them.


Bear in mind that while the speed for part (a) is 0.4 ms10.4 \ \text{ms}^{-1}, the actual velocity is 0.4 ms1-0.4 \ \text{ms}^{-1}, so it's necessary to be careful with signs.
Reply 11
Original post by UncookedYogurt
a) 0.4ms^-1 - I hope you got this

So we know that the trolley and the man and the sandbag are moving with (100kg) are moving with 0.4ms^-1
If the sandbag travels 2ms^-1 relative to the trolley/man which travels opposite to the bag, then what will the speed of the sandbag be?
So work out the momentum before *
Then work out the momentum after**
And equate them.
Reply with your answers and I can try to guide you with your solution


the relative velocity is confusing me
Reply 12
Original post by Prasiortle
You're not using the relative velocity correctly - it's 2 ms^-1 relative to the trolley, so go and look up what relative velocity means if you've forgotten.


my teacher has never mentioned this term to us during the year
Original post by Prasiortle
Bear in mind that while the speed for part (a) is 0.4 ms10.4 \ \text{ms}^{-1}, the actual velocity is 0.4 ms1-0.4 \ \text{ms}^{-1}, so it's necessary to be careful with signs.


For sure, but it is only neccessary for the relative bit :tongue:
Original post by man111111
my teacher has never mentioned this term to us during the year


Then your teacher is incompetent, as they missed out a key part of your syllabus, and so you should complain to your headmaster/headmistress. If you have a textbook, read the section within it on relative velocity, or if you don't have a textbook, read page 9 of this PDF: https://www.mrbartonmaths.com/resources/a%20level%20revision/M1.pdf
Original post by man111111
the relative velocity is confusing me


I like to think about relative velocity as imagining if one of the objects was stationary, what would the stationary object observe the speed of the other object!
Reply 16
Original post by Prasiortle
Then your teacher is incompetent, as they missed out a key part of your syllabus, and so you should complain to your headmaster/headmistress. If you have a textbook, read the section within it on relative velocity, or if you don't have a textbook, read page 9 of this PDF: https://www.mrbartonmaths.com/resources/a%20level%20revision/M1.pdf


ok i think i understand what relative velocity
so for this qs the person is moving -0.4 ms-1 but will see the bag move at at a different speed (is this relative velocity)
Original post by man111111
ok i think i understand what relative velocity
so for this qs the person is moving -0.4 ms-1 but will see the bag move at at a different speed (is this relative velocity)


Sure, what is that velocity?
Reply 18
Original post by UncookedYogurt
a) 0.4ms^-1 - I hope you got this

So we know that the trolley and the man and the sandbag are moving with (100kg) are moving with 0.4ms^-1
If the sandbag travels 2ms^-1 relative to the trolley/man which travels opposite to the bag, then what will the speed of the sandbag be?
So work out the momentum before *
Then work out the momentum after**
And equate them.
Reply with your answers and I can try to guide you with your solution


so if the person is moving -0.4ms-1 this person will see the object moving at 2ms-1
but it is actually moving at -0.4 +2 =1.6
Original post by man111111
so if the person is moving -0.4ms-1 this person will see the object moving at 2ms-1
but it is actually moving at -0.4 +2 =1.6


Yes.

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