My lecturer has challenged me to complete this question. I need to prove the series either diverges or converges. I know that the series is divergent by using divergent tests, but I need to do this by the comparison test. The problem is the -3 in the numerator and the only hint given is that I need to divide the numerator by something to make n^4 smaller.
My lecturer has challenged me to complete this question. I need to prove the series either diverges or converges. I know that the series is divergent by using divergent tests, but I need to do this by the comparison test. The problem is the -3 in the numerator and the only hint given is that I need to divide the numerator by something to make n^4 smaller.
Anybody know how to do this?
So you just need a lower bound on (n6+n−1n4−3)1/2 whose series diverges.
Just divide numerator and denominator by n4 to obtain
(n2+n−3−n−41−3n−4)1/2
Note that 1−3n−4≥c1 for n≥2
and n2+n−3−n−4<c2n2
where I leave it to you to determine what c1,c2 are as they are constants.
Hence bound is n=2∑∞(n6+n−1n4−3)1/2>c2c1n=2∑∞n1
That's not a convincing argument and not what I was suggesting. While that value of c2 works, you need to refine your argument.
For all n≥2 we have that
1<n2+n−3−n−4<n2+n−3<n2+kn2
and really, you could just pick k=1 at this stage (because it's obvious that n−3<n2) hence obtain c2=2.
We are effectively bounding n−3<kn2 so it's just a matter of having k>n−5 for all n≥2. So just choose k>n≥2maxn−5=2−5 hence the bound n2+n−3<c2n2 is guaranteed if we just choose
c2=1+k>3233.
Your answer you got through a bad argument works because 465>3233.
That's not a convincing argument and not what I was suggesting. While that value of c2 works, you need to refine your argument.
For all n≥2 we have that
1<n2+n−3−n−4<n2+n−3<n2+kn2
and really, you could just pick k=1 at this stage (because it's obvious that n−3<n2) hence obtain c2=2.
We are effectively bounding n−3<kn2 so it's just a matter of having k>n−5 for all n≥2. So just choose k>n≥2maxn−5=2−5 hence the bound n2+n−3<c2n2 is guaranteed if we just choose
c2=1+k>3233.
Your answer you got through a bad argument works because 465>3233.
Hi, sorry I'm struggling to understand this as it's not usually how we complete the questions. If you have time, could you try and explain this is as much detail as possible?
Hi, sorry I'm struggling to understand this as it's not usually how we complete the questions. If you have time, could you try and explain this is as much detail as possible?
In order to find the lower bound for (n2+n−3−n−41−3n−4)1/2 you need to do two things;
(a) find a lower bound for 1−3n−4
(b) find an upper bound for n2+n−3−n−4.
For (a), it is obvious that 1−3n−4 is an increasing function for n≥2 therefore we are justified to sub in n=2 to obtain the lower bound. Hence 1−3n−4≥1613.
For (b), it is less so obvious as to how this function behaves. We cannot immediately say that this is a decreasing function, so we cannot substitute anything in. But we can notice by inspection that n−4 is being taken away, therefore n2+n−3 is a bigger number. Hence n2+n−3−n−4<n2+n−3. Now also notice that for n≥2 we have that n−3 is a very small number. We are adding it onto n2. But we add on n2 instead, then this is obviously going to give as a bigger result because n2 is much bigger than n−4. Therefore; n2+n−3−n−4<n2+n−3<n2+n2=2n2.
Hence the upper bound here is 2n2. And so the overall bound becomes; (n2+n−3−n−41−3n−4)1/2>(32n213)1/2=3213⋅n1
and its series is a divergent one, hence by comparison test n≥2∑(n6+n−1n4−3)1/2 diverges.
I merely introduced k to show you that we can bound n−3 by *not just* n2 but by any kn2 as long as k>321, and since your method was incorrect, it still obtained a valid coefficient because this inequality was satisfied by it.
In order to find the lower bound for (n2+n−3−n−41−3n−4)1/2 you need to do two things;
(a) find a lower bound for 1−3n−4
(b) find an upper bound for n2+n−3−n−4.
For (a), it is obvious that 1−3n−4 is an increasing function for n≥2 therefore we are justified to sub in n=2 to obtain the lower bound. Hence 1−3n−4≥1613.
For (b), it is less so obvious as to how this function behaves. We cannot immediately say that this is a decreasing function, so we cannot substitute anything in. But we can notice by inspection that n−4 is being taken away, therefore n2+n−3 is a bigger number. Hence n2+n−3−n−4<n2+n−3. Now also notice that for n≥2 we have that n−3 is a very small number. We are adding it onto n2. But we add on n2 instead, then this is obviously going to give as a bigger result because n2 is much bigger than n−4. Therefore; n2+n−3−n−4<n2+n−3<n2+n2=2n2.
Hence the upper bound here is 2n2. And so the overall bound becomes; (n2+n−3−n−41−3n−4)1/2>(32n213)1/2=3213⋅n1
and its series is a divergent one, hence by comparison test n≥2∑(n6+n−1n4−3)1/2 diverges.
I merely introduced k to show you that we can bound n−3 by *not just* n2 but by any kn2 as long as k>321, and since your method was incorrect, it still obtained a valid coefficient because this inequality was satisfied by it.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this. That made perfect sense!