Incest...what is the world coming to

No, reproduction through incest should definately be illegal. It's not a double standard. I accept that people should have the opportunity to reproduce, and they do - do it with someone that's not in your family. The comparisons with disabled people are ridiculous, when they reproduce they are not actively increasing the chances of genetic problems in the offspring with their choices, whereas those who reproduce through incest are.

I'm sorry but I don't think you're going to push me into a corner and represent me as some eugenicist who thinks disabled people should not reproduce. The evident difference is that when healthy people have the chance to produce healthy children they are putting their children at risk when they produce offspring from incestuous relationships. It is not fair that their children be vulerable to illness and genetic deformation when they have the chance to be perfectly healthy.

Once it starts to affect other people and put their health at risk, it becomes an issue.

Anyone should be able to do whatever they want to whoever they want as long as both are consenting.

I don't see how that follows and what it has to do with reproduction through incest.

You're proving my point, I'm arguing that reproduction through incest should be illegal.

I'm sorry but I don't think you're going to push me into a corner and represent me as some eugenicist who thinks disabled people should not reproduce. The evident difference is that when healthy people have the chance to produce healthy children they are putting their children at risk when they produce offspring from incestuous relationships. It is not fair that their children be vulerable to illness and genetic deformation when they have the chance to be perfectly healthy.

Once it starts to affect other people and put their health at risk, it becomes an issue.

It's not a double standard, there are valid for reasons for having problems with reproduction through incest, it is a different situation than reproduction with genetic diseases.

a) It's rep.
b) You seriously expect no consequences from speech?
c) Good on you for speaking out aloud.

Why did you take that in the simplest way possible? The connotations flew way over your head.
I was talking about raising certain opinions that are traditional but right, and being flayed for them. Also, the point of a debate is not to penalise a person but put across different opinions to make each other aware and challenge one another intellectually. You need to see someone. And what do you mean 'consequences' for speech? That is what I am talking about; why should 'free' speech deserve 'consequences'. There is something rather sinister about that.

No it isn't. Two healthy people who have children via incest are less likely to have genetically mutated children than two people who suffer chronic genetic disabilites. So if anything, the reproduction with genetic diseases is worse.

Ignorance is not an excuse.

Besides... that doesn't make sense. Surely it'd be it's illegal for them to breed, but most people don't realise it.

Lets be realistic, HOW many people research whether they may carry a genetic defect? Not many. I havent. Have you?

Lets be realistic, HOW many people research whether they may carry a genetic defect? Not many. I havent. Have you?

But what if they do happen to know they have one? Should it be illegal then?

Do you think this won't be detected in the future?

Yes I'm probably cynical about free speech, since I don't really believe in speech without impact and consequences. Yes, my idea of free speech may be incorrect politically but I look at it in it's most literal term.

Besides. Why not?

Why aren't these people allowed to disagree with your opinion? They're perfectly entitled to voice their own opinion without debating it (You can treat them as an idiot if you wish) but anyhow something such as reputation is not really punishment as such.

I completely agree with you. I have been penalised for raising my opinions in past debates and it is refreshing to have somone say what they really think and for it to be right.