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Hi, I am a pre-clinical medic and was wondering how attainable it is to get a London junior doctor job after medschool. I'm averaging 70-75% at the moment but don't know my ranking. I know that junior doctor applications don't just rely on medschool grades.

Any tips/ advice would be appreciated!
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Hi, I am a pre-clinical medic and was wondering how attainable it is to get a London junior doctor job after medschool. I'm averaging 70-75% at the moment but don't know my ranking. I know that junior doctor applications don't just rely on medschool grades.

Any tips/ advice would be appreciated!
Currently, your results compared to the rest of the year is part of the Educational Performance Measure (EPM) scores.

Depending on your decile, you could score 34-43 points, out of 50 (under the current system).

In addition, you would also (under current rules) need to take the Situational Judgement Test (SJT) which will determine another 50 points.

Read https://foundationprogramme.nhs.uk/f...lications-faq/

Whether you get a high enough score for the London Foundation Schools depend on this.
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I just wanted to jump in and say that depending on when you will come to apply for the foundation programme, additional degrees and publications (currently up to 7 points - up to 5 for degrees and 2 for publications) will no longer count towards your EPM score. This will come into effect for those starting foundation training 2023. I emailed UKFPO to ask how/if these points would be replaced but they said they don't know yet... (LOL) and that "We do Guidance for 2023 is still a year away (April 2022) so we can’t provide anything else."

According to the stats for 2020 (under the current system), the lowest score for London is South Thames (but bear in mind most people spend a year outside of London) and that's 78.17. Second hardest is North Central and East London which was min 84.3 and then hardest is North West London with 85.7. There is an unofficial calculator that you can use to see roughly how many points you're likely to score (under the current system) https://jchui.github.io/fpas-calc/

There are also quite detailed stats for the 2020 application cycle where you can see how different med schools performed, what percentage got their top choices etc.
https://healtheducationengland.share...nYyemtaY2EyVWc
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I just wanted to jump in and say that depending on when you will come to apply for the foundation programme, additional degrees and publications (currently up to 7 points - up to 5 for degrees and 2 for publications) will no longer count towards your EPM score. This will come into effect for those starting foundation training 2023. I emailed UKFPO to ask how/if these points would be replaced but they said they don't know yet... (LOL) and that "We do Guidance for 2023 is still a year away (April 2022) so we can’t provide anything else."

According to the stats for 2020 (under the current system), the lowest score for London is South Thames (but bear in mind most people spend a year outside of London) and that's 78.17. Second hardest is North Central and East London which was min 84.3 and then hardest is North West London with 85.7. There is an unofficial calculator that you can use to see roughly how many points you're likely to score (under the current system) https://jchui.github.io/fpas-calc/

There are also quite detailed stats for the 2020 application cycle where you can see how different med schools performed, what percentage got their top choices etc.
https://healtheducationengland.share...nYyemtaY2EyVWc
Second link doesn't work, I don't think.

This is the link I am aware of - gives lots of stats about deanery competition ratios, average scores by med school, what % get their first choice, etc.

https://jchui.github.io/fpas-calc/da...port_FINAL.pdf
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