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I cant chose between philosophy BA or economics BSC

im 22 and already changed uni courses so its crucial i get it right this time. Im very passionate and well read about philosophy, and if i wasnt worried about the career prospects id take it in a heart beat. However, economics seems more stable and reliable for job prospects and perhaps more respected. Is economics really that good for employment and philosophy that bad? anyone have any advice im really struggling with this decision.
Original post by Autisticus14
im 22 and already changed uni courses so its crucial i get it right this time. Im very passionate and well read about philosophy, and if i wasnt worried about the career prospects id take it in a heart beat. However, economics seems more stable and reliable for job prospects and perhaps more respected. Is economics really that good for employment and philosophy that bad? anyone have any advice im really struggling with this decision.


They're just degrees, and they're considered as such in the UK. Having a degree won't guarantee you a job in the country; experience and skills help though. Having a degree would allow you to go into academics should you wish.

Philosophers is not really a job title, as much as an author at best. Economist is a job title if you work for the government or coporations, and it's an advantage over the philosophy degree.
Economists can be paid a lot more, but the caveat is that if you get the job.

You can use either degrees to apply for any job that accept any degree, mostly because these jobs don't specifically ask for any degree in the first place e.g. government services, property, accounting, marketing, logistics, finance, management, etc.

If you flick through a variety of prospectuses for grad roles in companies, you will quickly find out that a number of them accept philosophy degrees if you read the bio of some of the hired candidates.

I'm curious to know what course you changed from and what makes you think it's any different with a degree in economics or philosophy.

What I don't quite understand is why not consider a joint degree if you're that concerned? e.g.
https://www.lse.ac.uk/study-at-lse/Undergraduate/degree-programmes-2024/BSc-Philosophy-and-Economics
https://www.york.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/ba-economics-philosophy/
https://www.bristol.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/2024/philosophy/bsc-philosophy-and-economics/

PPE is also a degree that you can also take.

Just a side note: if you intend to take a degree in economics, I would strongly recommend doing the quantitative degrees (they usually highlight the need for A Level Maths and possibly further maths as well) otherwise you won't likely secure the stats related economist roles.
Original post by MindMax2000
They're just degrees, and they're considered as such in the UK. Having a degree won't guarantee you a job in the country; experience and skills help though. Having a degree would allow you to go into academics should you wish.

Philosophers is not really a job title, as much as an author at best. Economist is a job title if you work for the government or coporations, and it's an advantage over the philosophy degree.
Economists can be paid a lot more, but the caveat is that if you get the job.

You can use either degrees to apply for any job that accept any degree, mostly because these jobs don't specifically ask for any degree in the first place e.g. government services, property, accounting, marketing, logistics, finance, management, etc.

If you flick through a variety of prospectuses for grad roles in companies, you will quickly find out that a number of them accept philosophy degrees if you read the bio of some of the hired candidates.

I'm curious to know what course you changed from and what makes you think it's any different with a degree in economics or philosophy.

What I don't quite understand is why not consider a joint degree if you're that concerned? e.g.
https://www.lse.ac.uk/study-at-lse/Undergraduate/degree-programmes-2024/BSc-Philosophy-and-Economics
https://www.york.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/ba-economics-philosophy/
https://www.bristol.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/2024/philosophy/bsc-philosophy-and-economics/

PPE is also a degree that you can also take.

Just a side note: if you intend to take a degree in economics, I would strongly recommend doing the quantitative degrees (they usually highlight the need for A Level Maths and possibly further maths as well) otherwise you won't likely secure the stats related economist roles.


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Original post by MindMax2000
They're just degrees, and they're considered as such in the UK. Having a degree won't guarantee you a job in the country; experience and skills help though. Having a degree would allow you to go into academics should you wish.

Philosophers is not really a job title, as much as an author at best. Economist is a job title if you work for the government or coporations, and it's an advantage over the philosophy degree.
Economists can be paid a lot more, but the caveat is that if you get the job.

You can use either degrees to apply for any job that accept any degree, mostly because these jobs don't specifically ask for any degree in the first place e.g. government services, property, accounting, marketing, logistics, finance, management, etc.

If you flick through a variety of prospectuses for grad roles in companies, you will quickly find out that a number of them accept philosophy degrees if you read the bio of some of the hired candidates.

I'm curious to know what course you changed from and what makes you think it's any different with a degree in economics or philosophy.

What I don't quite understand is why not consider a joint degree if you're that concerned? e.g.
https://www.lse.ac.uk/study-at-lse/Undergraduate/degree-programmes-2024/BSc-Philosophy-and-Economics
https://www.york.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/ba-economics-philosophy/
https://www.bristol.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/2024/philosophy/bsc-philosophy-and-economics/

PPE is also a degree that you can also take.

Just a side note: if you intend to take a degree in economics, I would strongly recommend doing the quantitative degrees (they usually highlight the need for A Level Maths and possibly further maths as well) otherwise you won't likely si switched ecure the stats related economist roles.

I switched from electrical engineering as it just felt souless and dead and i couldnt see myself working in the sector. I tried to get a job woth no degree but it seems prospects are low for anything decent as so many people have degrees these days, seems like a real disadvantage not having one if you want anything other than unskilled low paying jobs
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Economics and Philosophy is a degree that you can do at a fair few places (Bristol, York, Nottingham, Manchester, LSE from a quick google with probs others). Theres also PPE which is offered by more universities. I think a joint degree might be a good idea, is there a reason you wouldn't want to do one?
Original post by Autisticus14
I switched from electrical engineering as it just felt souless and dead and i couldnt see myself working in the sector. I tried to get a job woth no degree but it seems prospects are low for anything decent as so many people have degrees these days, seems like a real disadvantage not having one if you want anything other than unskilled low paying jobs


OK. Then have you considered the options with a degree in electrical engineering, even if you don't intend to go into the sector?

If you haven't left the degree completely, you could consider the following:

Becoming an actuary

Work in quants

Do a role in finance

Teach maths and science

Work in tech

Work as a statician

Go into accounting, law

Switch to another engineering discipline e.g. civil, chemical, mechanical

Work in bioinformatics for the NHS



If you want to go completely off at a tangent doing something completely different, consider:

Property (other than architecture)

Teach English as a foreign language

Sales, marketing

Become an author

Become a philosopher

Go into trades

Become a personal trainer (you will need certificates for this, but you can do them in a few months)

Become a chef

Become an artist, go into theatre, become a musician

Become a coach of some kind (not just in sports)

Start your own business

Become a translator (if you know more than one language fluently)

Become a therapist (depending on the type, you might need to spend one more year in college or uni)

Go into fashion design

Go into the armed forces

Work in civil services



Whilst it's not common, I have seen STEM grads go into economist roles due to their quantitative background (economists do a lot of stats).
In terms of job prospects, they aren't all that different from doing a degree in philosophy or economics (or both). The only realy major differences which discipline you study can restrict you to which area in academia you can work in. If that doesn't interest you, then it's not going to matter that much.

The only time I would seriously consider changing degrees are:

If you're intent on going into a completely different area of research that your degrees won't allow you to go into

If you really really hate the subject that you're studying

If the degree that you're studying does not and won't allow you to go into a highly regulated field that will require specialist and accredited degrees (e.g. healthcare, engineering, architecture), and neither philosophy or (possibly) economics really offer you this benefit.



If you really wanted to, there's the option for you to do a conversion course in economics at postgrad level, which would then allow you to pursue economics degrees at master's and PhD levels. With philosophy, you would need to do another bachelor's, as I can't see a master's degree from the UK (not sure about the US, since they go by a different education system) you would be eligible for without an undergrad in philosophy.
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Original post by Autisticus14
im 22 and already changed uni courses so its crucial i get it right this time. Im very passionate and well read about philosophy, and if i wasnt worried about the career prospects id take it in a heart beat. However, economics seems more stable and reliable for job prospects and perhaps more respected. Is economics really that good for employment and philosophy that bad? anyone have any advice im really struggling with this decision.


Go with your Interest. Everything will be fine

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