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Would having a mixed race majority be one of the greatest days in British history??
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Original post by angelmxxx
Surely that's a huge stereotype?
I mean, I'm mixed race but both my parents are British, and don't have any other cultural background. We're a typical midsomer-murders watching family, probably about as British as it gets. If you compared me to white people who only shop in Polish supermarkets/etc, or Italian people, etc then there'd be no contest whatsoever in 'Britishness'.
Yes a lot of non-white people in Britain are immigrants, who would probably keep eating some of the same foods, celebrating their home country's festivals etc, but if you meet their children the children tend to be completely immersed in British culture - don't speak with an accent, cook and eat British food, celebrate British holidays/royal wedding etc. To be honest, a lot of immigrants will be celebrating the royal wedding a lot more than some British people.
I still don't get why you'd feel out of place though - would you feel like that if you were the only blonde person in a group of brunettes? I live in a 95-99% white area and don't even really notice differences.
I mean, I'm mixed race but both my parents are British, and don't have any other cultural background. We're a typical midsomer-murders watching family, probably about as British as it gets. If you compared me to white people who only shop in Polish supermarkets/etc, or Italian people, etc then there'd be no contest whatsoever in 'Britishness'.
Yes a lot of non-white people in Britain are immigrants, who would probably keep eating some of the same foods, celebrating their home country's festivals etc, but if you meet their children the children tend to be completely immersed in British culture - don't speak with an accent, cook and eat British food, celebrate British holidays/royal wedding etc. To be honest, a lot of immigrants will be celebrating the royal wedding a lot more than some British people.
I still don't get why you'd feel out of place though - would you feel like that if you were the only blonde person in a group of brunettes? I live in a 95-99% white area and don't even really notice differences.
That's a big stereotype in itself.. I know plenty of second generation immigrations who maintain a lot of their own cultural habits and so on. It's silly to say that because you're a mixed race second generation immigrant and very British, everyone else mixed race feels the same.
Maybe a lot do, but a lot don't. Which I say as someone who is mixed race myself.
Celebrating when a certain colour of people outnumber a different colour of people? Sounds a little racist to me.
im sorry but unless the race mixing is with intelligent and accomplished desi-asian and east asians, jews and other europeans, expect Britains relative prosperity to dissapear with white people.
It's funny these same mugs blindly promoting "multiculturalism" are the same people who would be horrified by living under sharia law, or ****ting themselves if they found themselves in the wrong part of the LA barrios, compton or rios favelas.
It's funny these same mugs blindly promoting "multiculturalism" are the same people who would be horrified by living under sharia law, or ****ting themselves if they found themselves in the wrong part of the LA barrios, compton or rios favelas.
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Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo
That's a big stereotype in itself.. I know plenty of second generation immigrations who maintain a lot of their own cultural habits and so on. It's silly to say that because you're a mixed race second generation immigrant and very British, everyone else mixed race feels the same.
Maybe a lot do, but a lot don't. Which I say as someone who is mixed race myself.
Maybe a lot do, but a lot don't. Which I say as someone who is mixed race myself.
I'm not, but anyway.
I'm not saying everyone does. I'm saying a higher % do than 1st generation immigrants.
Also, I didn't say people give up their culture. It was more about learning the language, etc.
There's a difference between one person being multicultural (eg celebrating aspects of their parents' culture and British culture), and a town being multicultural (different groups of people who act only in accordance with their culture).
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Original post by angelmxxx
I'm not, but anyway.
I'm not saying everyone does. I'm saying a higher % do than 1st generation immigrants.
Also, I didn't say people give up their culture. It was more about learning the language, etc.
There's a difference between one person being multicultural (eg celebrating aspects of their parents' culture and British culture), and a town being multicultural (different groups of people who act only in accordance with their culture).
I'm not saying everyone does. I'm saying a higher % do than 1st generation immigrants.
Also, I didn't say people give up their culture. It was more about learning the language, etc.
There's a difference between one person being multicultural (eg celebrating aspects of their parents' culture and British culture), and a town being multicultural (different groups of people who act only in accordance with their culture).
You said you're mixed race, but both your parents are British.. wasn't either of them born outside of the UK?
Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo
You said you're mixed race, but both your parents are British.. wasn't either of them born outside of the UK?
Nope.
Original post by JIRAIYA-ERO-SENNIN
having a mixed raced majority is a bad thing (for me anyway) because pure blondes would disappear. i love blonde women too much to let this happen
You could always move to Scandinavia.
Non-fake blondes are rare to find in the UK anyway.
Original post by angelmxxx
Nope.
Lol, fair enough. My bad.
Original post by aarora
I'd like to see that 
Mee too.
I think this is what Britain and the western world needs to ensure fairness and equality.
Original post by Sharpshooter
Do you think the day when Britain has a mixed race majority of (over 50% of it's citizens) will be one of the greatest days in British history?? Would you like to see that?? If I am being honest I would.
I think the fact that there are so many mixed race relationships indicates where the planet, and more importantly Britain, is heading. I even think we could even have it this century.
I would look foward to the day when Britain becomes likes that, it would almost be like a Moon landing/Berlin wall moment.
I think the fact that there are so many mixed race relationships indicates where the planet, and more importantly Britain, is heading. I even think we could even have it this century.
I would look foward to the day when Britain becomes likes that, it would almost be like a Moon landing/Berlin wall moment.
You are silly. Not everyone is attracted to other races etc
Original post by angelmxxx
Why would you care if that happened? If everyone else in your village was the same culture as you (multiracial area definitely doesn't equal multicultural area) then what would be the difference to your hypothetical current white village?
A village full of black people with the same British culture as you would surely be much more similar to your current life than a village full of white Australian or French or American people with their own culture?
A village full of black people with the same British culture as you would surely be much more similar to your current life than a village full of white Australian or French or American people with their own culture?
I would certainly care if this happened. I want my country and society to stay white, I do not want it to turn black or brown. I prefer white aesthetics over brown and black ones and I want to preserve my ethnicity. I think turning this country mixed race would be tragic.
I would much prefer a white village filled with different europan nationalities, than a black village full of Black British people.
Why do you have a problem with people who want to live with their own ethnicity ? Oh yeah I forgot, you a liberal left winger so you are right and everyone else is wrong
Original post by Scottish
I would certainly care if this happened. I want my country and society to stay white, I do not want it to turn black or brown. I prefer white aesthetics over brown and black ones and I want to preserve my ethnicity. I think turning this country mixed race would be tragic.
I would much prefer a white village filled with different europan nationalities, than a black village full of Black British people.
Why do you have a problem with people who want to live with their own ethnicity ? Oh yeah I forgot, you a liberal left winger so you are right and everyone else is wrong
I would much prefer a white village filled with different europan nationalities, than a black village full of Black British people.
Why do you have a problem with people who want to live with their own ethnicity ? Oh yeah I forgot, you a liberal left winger so you are right and everyone else is wrong
Haha I'm not even left wing! I have met enough people to know that race in no way equals culture. Race is just a skin colour, it has no meaning except in regards to how much sun cream someone needs to put on.
Original post by angelmxxx
Haha I'm not even left wing! I have met enough people to know that race in no way equals culture. Race is just a skin colour, it has no meaning except in regards to how much sun cream someone needs to put on.
It is also facial shape, bonse structure, hair texture etc. As I stated before I think turning the white race brown would be an absolute tragedy. I love the aesthetics of white, I love the highly individualised traits of white such as red hair and blue eyes. And I want to preserve them, I want to live in my own country with my own ethnicity. I want my ociety to stay predominantly white. I have no problem with other races, however I love my own ethnicity and I feel most comfortable when surrounded by white people.
Absolutely not!
Why on earth would our country losing its true heritage be 'one the greatest days' in its history?
I would like to think that people of a (long stretching) British background remain the majority for as long as I am alive; likewise, I would not like to visit another country only to find that, in fact, most of the people there were not of that country.
Whatever would the phrase 'I'm British' mean, were most people of Britain not themselves British? Think about it. National pride!
Why on earth would our country losing its true heritage be 'one the greatest days' in its history?
I would like to think that people of a (long stretching) British background remain the majority for as long as I am alive; likewise, I would not like to visit another country only to find that, in fact, most of the people there were not of that country.
Whatever would the phrase 'I'm British' mean, were most people of Britain not themselves British? Think about it. National pride!
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Original post by PinkMobilePhone
No it wouldn't, it would be terrible. It would be like.....all the other races becoming endangered species, like bengal tigers!
Why should the idea of separate races have to be preserved? Why is it terrible? What matters is the person, not their skin colour. The traditions and cultures, as well as all the different things gained, doesn't go away because of there being less people of a whiter or darker colour.
Equally, I think people should not be this obsessed with skin colour, and a 'mixed race majority' because that is not any better than what we have now.
Original post by Danz123
Why should the idea of separate races have to be preserved? Why is it terrible? What matters is the person, not their skin colour. The traditions and cultures, as well as all the different things gained, doesn't go away because of there being less people of a whiter or darker colour.
Equally, I think people should not be this obsessed with skin colour, and a 'mixed race majority' because that is not any better than what we have now.
Equally, I think people should not be this obsessed with skin colour, and a 'mixed race majority' because that is not any better than what we have now.
Are you white ? If not you would not understand, because the white population is the only one declining. It is only white countries seeing tidal waves of brown and black migrants and not vice versa. So if you are not white what gives you the right to lecture the white community if they want to preserve their ethnicity ?
I would never go to India or Japan and tell lecture them on multiculturalism and multicracialism, I would not dare criticise them if they wanted to preserve their ethnicity , so why do people feel they can do it to us ?
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Original post by Danz123
Why should the idea of separate races have to be preserved? Why is it terrible? What matters is the person, not their skin colour. The traditions and cultures, as well as all the different things gained, doesn't go away because of there being less people of a whiter or darker colour.
Equally, I think people should not be this obsessed with skin colour, and a 'mixed race majority' because that is not any better than what we have now.
Equally, I think people should not be this obsessed with skin colour, and a 'mixed race majority' because that is not any better than what we have now.
culture is a consequence of race. not the other way around. do you think if you swapped the population of africa with the population of china, the respective cultures would just carry on as before?
Original post by Scottish
Are you white ? If not you would not understand, because the white population is the only one declining. It is only white countries seeing tidal waves of brown and black migrants and not vice versa. So if you are not white what gives you the right to lecture the white community if they want to preserve their ethnicity ?
I would never go to India or Japan and tell lecture them on multiculturalism and multicracialism, I would not dare criticise them if they wanted to preserve their ethnicity , so why do people feel they can do it to us ?
I would never go to India or Japan and tell lecture them on multiculturalism and multicracialism, I would not dare criticise them if they wanted to preserve their ethnicity , so why do people feel they can do it to us ?
I'm not lecturing, but if you take it that way then so be it. Also, my post was more general to be honest, rather than a focus on the UK. All I'm saying is that a 'mixed race majority' shouldn't be looked upon as something great, and be emphasized; and equally, people shouldn't treat skin colour as if it needs to be preserved. This goes for any and all ethnicities, I'm not just talking about white people.
For the record, I'm mixed race, and half-Scottish; so no I'm not fully white, but I have just as much of a right as anyone else to talk about race in general, and about the question the OP has brought up.
If globalisation continues apace then in, what, five or six generations the face of much of the world will be some kind of multifaceted hybrid incorporating major features from every race. On the one hand, it would be great - a very healthy gene pool incorporating genetic adaptations from all over the world. On the other hand, I think it would be kind of boring to have a world so utterly dominated by a single polyethnic group. Black, White, East Asian, Indigenous American, Polynesian, Melanesians, Arabic, Indian, Turkic and Altaic people . . . it would be a shame to lose some of that distinction, I think. That diversity is itself, beautiful, representative of hundreds of thousands of years of evolution to different environments and requirements - it tells the human story in the most fundamental possible way. I think we can achieve a colourblind world without necessarily "blending the palette" into a single colour, that just seems like a cheap way out.
Of course if that is the way that we're headed then there's not a damn thing that anyone can do to stop it and I'd be more than happy to live in a world like that, but I don't think it's something we should aim for.
Of course if that is the way that we're headed then there's not a damn thing that anyone can do to stop it and I'd be more than happy to live in a world like that, but I don't think it's something we should aim for.
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Original post by Curzon
Walking on eggshells here...
We seem to have a unique attitude to this in the UK. If anyone so much as challenges the idea of multiculturalism they are labelled a nazi and obviously must vote BNP.
I think it would be sad if native white people became a minority here. Why? Because we've been here for thousands of years, we're still here, and I don't want to see us go to be honest. It would change our countries. Wales wouldn't really be Wales anymore if there were no native Welsh people left, and I love Wales. I think we should be careful with this. It's just an ideological thing, I think it would be a shame if it came to that. Then again, continuing to use Wales as an example, this is only really a massive issue in the big cities really so Wales dodges it a bit.
Race and diversity is such a touchy thing in the UK when really it should be ok to have a mature, open debate on it. It's great to have other cultures here, but we should preserve our own as well.
We seem to have a unique attitude to this in the UK. If anyone so much as challenges the idea of multiculturalism they are labelled a nazi and obviously must vote BNP.
I think it would be sad if native white people became a minority here. Why? Because we've been here for thousands of years, we're still here, and I don't want to see us go to be honest. It would change our countries. Wales wouldn't really be Wales anymore if there were no native Welsh people left, and I love Wales. I think we should be careful with this. It's just an ideological thing, I think it would be a shame if it came to that. Then again, continuing to use Wales as an example, this is only really a massive issue in the big cities really so Wales dodges it a bit.
Race and diversity is such a touchy thing in the UK when really it should be ok to have a mature, open debate on it. It's great to have other cultures here, but we should preserve our own as well.
I completely agree!
If my parents had gone to Nigeria and I'd been born there, who the hell in their right mind would consider me Nigerian? Or if they'd gone to Japan and had me there, would I be Japanese? Of course not, I'd be British, and if I suggested anything to the contrary I'd be ridiculed by the native peoples of those lands.
Ethnic minorities can claim to be 'civically' British, in the sense that the can vote, be taxed, expect protection from the law, be treated by the NHS, but they can logically never be as English, Welsh or as Scottish as somebody who's parent's were born in Britain, and their parents etc. even if they embrace our culture and language. To say that they can is to deny the rest of us of any racial identity. It's not a competition or anything as to see who's the 'most' British, but just fact; neither is it any reason to hold these people in contempt.
So it would be very sad indeed if the native ethnicity of Britian should disappear into a homogeneous hodge-podge of every other race on the planet. We'd have lost something - namley our culture, and I know plenty of liberals coun't care less about that, but plenty of us do.
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