Oxford Applicants for 2012 Entry MKII

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Reply 3742

Original post by punctuation

It's not that everyone's ideal is being the same thing: it is that there is an ideal form of everything out there, and that humans are constantly striving for it but never actually reaching it.

For example, a well-constructed table is supposedly 'perfect' in our world but Plato would say that, in fact, there is a better one one there, an ideal form of a table... :tongue:

Another more sensical argument would be his argument for geometry (drawing from Pythagoras)

Hmmm okay. But if we will never reach it, it's not out there... :wink:

What's his argument for geometry? :colondollar:

Reply 3743

Original post by fluteflute

What's his argument for geometry? :colondollar:

I don't remember :colonhash:

But I think he was for science and geometry as being 'perfect'. He also used perfect squares as an example, I think

Reply 3744

Original post by Brand New Eyes

Haha, you know it's Liesl who leans in seductively :wink:

(8) Better beware, be canny and careful, baby you're on the breeze (8)

Aha, but it's true! Maybe... :blush:

in the innocent way?

I know, I'm just giving you hints :wink:

(8)Totally unprepared are you, to face a world of men (8)

Yes, in the innocent way... (mostly). How many pages have you written on?

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Brand New Eyes

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Original post by fluteflute

Hmmm okay. But if we will never reach it, it's not out there... :wink:

What's his argument for geometry? :colondollar:

That's why he argues it only exists in the mind of the creator, and everything else is just an imitation.

I second that question.

Reply 3746

Original post by punctuation

I don't remember :colonhash:

But I think he was for science and geometry as being 'perfect'. He also used perfect squares as an example, I think

My college's centre number is a prime :biggrin:

(I don't know if you have centre numbers in Canada... so that may not make sense to you). It's a twin prime too. And an irregular prime (whatever that means) according to Wolfram Alpha.

So, did he believe we haven't found perfect geometry and algebra, and are still striving for the perfect form of it?

Reply 3747

Original post by fluteflute

My college's centre number is a prime :biggrin:

(I don't know if you have centre numbers in Canada... so that may not make sense to you). It's a twin prime too. And an irregular prime (whatever that means) according to Wolfram Alpha.

So, did he believe we haven't found perfect geometry and algebra, and are still striving for the perfect form of it?

Oh we have centre numbers too... mine is CA009... I don't understand the logic of it as we supposedly only have two centres in Canada.

:iiam:

Wolfram Alpha :woo:

And I can't remember, ask BNE :tongue:

Reply 3748

medbh4805

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Original post by Brand New Eyes

Ah maybs i just wasn't clear :h:

Plato is one weird cookie. I mean, what with the cave, his forms, slavery, and philosophy kings :fuhrer:

You learn about him in Greek/Latin/Class Civ?

nah just by reading :colonhash:

but most classics degrees (and all the ones I've applied to) include philo modules :woo:

Reply 3749

Original post by medbh4805

nah just by reading :colonhash:

but most classics degrees (and all the ones I've applied to) include philo modules :woo:

you've read him in Greek then?

I am jealous :frown:

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medbh4805

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Original post by fluteflute

A perfect form of cheese? :rolleyes:

That idea doesn't particularly appeal to me, diversity is the spice of life... (or maybe I'm missing the point)

Plato would say there is :sexface:

It's not an idea I agree with tbh :ninja:

Aristotle criticises it heavily, and he was Plato's student.

Mmm we are.... :colondollar:

indeed

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Original post by punctuation

Wolfram Alpha :woo:

More like

Reply 3752

Original post by medbh4805

Plato would say there is :sexface:

It's not an idea I agree with tbh :ninja:

Aristotle criticises it heavily, and he was Plato's student.

Aristotle is stupid. :|

Or at least some of his views were highly sexist (e.g. women cannot reason and thus they must be dominated by men, etc.)

Reply 3753

medbh4805

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Original post by punctuation

you've read him in Greek then?

I am jealous :frown:

Mainly in English translation (though I have some read some extracts in Greek), though I was given a Loeb edition of Thaeatus and Sophist (in Greek) at UNIQ which I keep meaning to get round to reading.....

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