Which UK universities apart from Oxbridge are comparable to the Ivy Leagues?

So as one man said;
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Oxford, Cambridge are, IMO, the truly internationally recognized brands.

Most of them would probably mistake Stanford and MIT as Ivies.

So as one man said;
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Oxford, Cambridge are, IMO, the truly internationally recognized brands.

If you add some of the Ivies such as Dartmouth, you can add Imperial, LSE and UCL. Manchester and St. Andrews would be debatable, I guess.

To be honest Ivy League doesn't mean much to me. The only American universities I'd say "wow" to, if somebody told me they went there, would be Princeton, Harvard and MIT (and CalTech due to one Richard Feynman ). Stanford, Yale, Cornell would be recieved no differently to UCL or Warwick; by no means bad, but not the very best either.

I can't say I'd be much impressed with any other American university, Ivy League or not. The three I've mentioned I would put on par with Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial and LSE in terms of prestige. Who cares if the "layman" hasn't heard of these places; anyone who matters will have.

Seriously? Stanford and Yale are not really comparable to Warwick and UCL... Yale and Stanford are part of the very best i.e (HYSP) maybe you're confusing them with another US college. Stanford and Yale are superior to LSE and Imperial in terms of global prestige and recognition and on par with all top American schools bar Harvard.

I'm certainly not confusing them.

If I had offers to go to Yale, Stanford or UCL, my order of preference would be Stanford, UCL, then Yale. I don't think Yale carries all that much prestige at all with the "layman".

And you think UCL does? Not sure I've met anyone who would say UCL is more prestigious than Yale, considering that its reputation in the US is dubious to say the least. If we're talking about the 'layman' I still don't see how UCL or even Imperial would appear any more prestigious than Yale.

To be honest I've only ever really heard of Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Brown.

It has been front page news all over the States.

Clearly the brand is not as big as HYP, MIT, Stanford or Oxbridge, but it is an international brand in the way that the University of Michigan or University of Texas or the University of North Carolina (and I have deliberately chosen these-not just picked 3 state names) aren't. Remember, a lot of older people still associate it with the Kennedys.

I'm certainly not confusing them.

If I had offers to go to Yale, Stanford or UCL, my order of preference would be Stanford, UCL, then Yale. I don't think Yale carries all that much prestige at all with the "layman".

With respect to the "big players" my preferences would be Cambridge, MIT, Harvard, Oxford, Imperial, then finally Princeton. I think anyone remotely interested in academia would have heard of all of these and have similar "respect" for them.

Everyone always forgets the West coast, surely UC-Berkely, UCLA, Caltech ?

HAHA, the OP asked for a comparable establishment/group, the russel group Unis are the best research unis in the UK, and the world. The russel group is the obvious comparison to them.

The IVY league doesnt even include all of the best american universities anyway.

I'm certainly not confusing them. If I had offers to go to Yale, Stanford or UCL, my order of preference would be Stanford, UCL, then Yale. I don't think Yale carries all that much prestige at all with the "layman".

I'm currently an international student interested in applying to both sides of the atlantic for university. I was wondering apart from Oxbridge, which British universities can compete with the Ivy League schools in terms of:

-Teaching Quality
-Job prospects (in general)
-International Prestige/Reputation/wow factor (whatever you wanna call it)

They are the leading brands but by no means the only internationally recognised brands as we have seen this week. The Chinese agents in the Telegraph this week weren't trying to get people into Harvard, they were trying to get people into Leeds, UEA, Kent and Cardiff.

Yale carries far more prestige with the layman than UCL. It is one of the big 3 ivies (along with Havard and Princeton).



They aren't considered to be on the level of HYSP and MIT. Although, they are probably more internationally recognised than some of the top 10/top 15 unis in the UK.

Are you kidding me? Most people have heard of Yale (even in the UK) and if you told them you studies at Yale you would most certainly receive an 'oooooooo'.

I don't know many British layman who are aware of the prestige of UCL.

I've never met one person in the UK who has heard of Yale. Whenever they see it in world rankings, everyone says "who the heck are Yale? "

On the other hand most people I speak to know of UCL.

Not in my opinion, it doesn't. The British layman is more likely to have heard of Yale than the American layman is to have heard of UCL.