OCR A2 LAW G153 Criminal Law 1 - June 2013

this is going to be real absurd question :biggrin:

but on section B, for theft, we only needed to write about theft right? no burglary etc :biggrin:

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Original post by JLXP

What did you think of it? I'm praying I didn't miss anything out

My AO1 was awful forgot loads of case my mind just went blank :frown:

AO2 was simple , the only issue I had was the flower an exception of property (wild plant)?

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Original post by JLXP

What did you think of it? I'm praying I didn't miss anything out

Think it was pretty good, I did all of AO1 and then started with the AO2 application.

Can't really remember much of it? Pretty much all I can remember:
- Definitely said taking the money out of the till was theft even if he intended to return it, as in Velumyl
- Putting stuff in shopping basket was not theft - as Lord Roskill said in Morris
- Eating the chocolate bar was theft - shop had proprietary right in the chocolate
- Taking the flowers I argued was theft because they came from a garden, and generally gardens are owned by people and thus they are not growing wild. Did argue that if they were wild it would not be theft.

What else did he do? I'm so exhausted from revising I can't even remember the question!

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Original post by N1037

For people that did insanity and automatism did you get accurate, accurate, inaccurate and accurate? Because I know of people that got both and I'm worried!

i put the exact same answers as you! however, i had no real structure because i was running out of time

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Original post by millie-rose

Think it was pretty good, I did all of AO1 and then started with the AO2 application.

Can't really remember much of it? Pretty much all I can remember:
- Definitely said taking the money out of the till was theft even if he intended to return it, as in Velumyl
- Putting stuff in shopping basket was not theft - as Lord Roskill said in Morris
- Eating the chocolate bar was theft - shop had proprietary right in the chocolate
- Taking the flowers I argued was theft because they came from a garden, and generally gardens are owned by people and thus they are not growing wild. Did argue that if they were wild it would not be theft.

What else did he do? I'm so exhausted from revising I can't even remember the question!

oh no! i defo got that bit wrong with the wild bit. however, i did state that if the flowers were growing on wild, then it wont be deemed theft. ( i completely forgot it was in the garden)

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Original post by hoping

this is going to be real absurd question :biggrin:

but on section B, for theft, we only needed to write about theft right? no burglary etc :biggrin:

I only wrote about theft, I was tempted to go into burglary, then I saw the time and was like hell no!!

I think we didn't need too because it said discuss if whatever the guys name is will be guilty of theft, not under The Theft Act - which would insinuate theft, robbery & burglary :smile:

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Original post by millie-rose

Think it was pretty good, I did all of AO1 and then started with the AO2 application.

Can't really remember much of it? Pretty much all I can remember:
- Definitely said taking the money out of the till was theft even if he intended to return it, as in Velumyl
- Putting stuff in shopping basket was not theft - as Lord Roskill said in Morris
- Eating the chocolate bar was theft - shop had proprietary right in the chocolate
- Taking the flowers I argued was theft because they came from a garden, and generally gardens are owned by people and thus they are not growing wild. Did argue that if they were wild it would not be theft.

What else did he do? I'm so exhausted from revising I can't even

remember the question!

he also got money under mistake when he paid for the items in the supermarket

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Original post by hoping

this is going to be real absurd question :biggrin:

but on section B, for theft, we only needed to write about theft right? no burglary etc :biggrin:

Burglary is under the theft act , what was the question .. damn

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Original post by hoping

oh no! i defo got that bit wrong with the wild bit. however, i did state that if the flowers were growing on wild, then it wont be deemed theft. ( i completely forgot it was in the garden)

No I did exactly the same, then as I was re-reading I thought crap, a garden is generally owned by someone! So quickly scribbled it in - I think if you've explained it and concluded accurately though should be fine. a 'garden' can be quite subjective!

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Original post by hoping

he also got money under mistake when he paid for the items in the supermarket

Ahhh yeah that was it! I said it wasn't theft at the time, but when he realised that she had given him more the next day he had an obligation to make restoration - AG Reference

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Original post by millie-rose

I only wrote about theft, I was tempted to go into burglary, then I saw the time and was like hell no!!

I think we didn't need too because it said discuss if whatever the guys name is will be guilty of theft, not under The Theft Act - which would insinuate theft, robbery & burglary :smile:

thank god lol :biggrin:

for an instant i thought the supermarket was a 'building' and he was tresspassing. however, like you said, i read that the question was only asking about theft.
at first when we did theft during class, we had a assessment, and it was based on a similar scenario with the market, but i dont remember putting theft for that, and got a A, so i hope i did it right! :biggrin:

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Original post by qr95

Burglary is under the theft act , what was the question .. damn

The question was discuss Tom(?)'s liability for Theft.

If they wanted us to discuss it all I think they would have said under the Theft Act

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Original post by qr95

Burglary is under the theft act , what was the question .. damn

Think it was pretty good, I did all of AO1 and then started with the AO2 application.

Can't really remember much of it? Pretty much all I can remember:
- Definitely said taking the money out of the till was theft even if he intended to return it, as in Velumyl
- Putting stuff in shopping basket was not theft - as Lord Roskill said in Morris
- Eating the chocolate bar was theft - shop had proprietary right in the chocolate
- Taking the flowers I argued was theft because they came from a garden, and generally gardens are owned by people and thus they are not growing wild. Did argue that if they were wild it would not be theft.

What else did he do? I'm so exhausted from revising I can't even

remember the question!

( this was basically the content of the question, what Mille has already wrote. i hope burglary wasnt involved :biggrin:

)

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Original post by millie-rose

Ahhh yeah that was it! I said it wasn't theft at the time, but when he realised that she had given him more the next day he had an obligation to make restoration - AG Reference

lol thats what i wrote, not sure but i wrote something about continuing act of theft :biggrin:

i must have got confused with oapa !

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Original post by millie-rose

No I did exactly the same, then as I was re-reading I thought crap, a garden is generally owned by someone! So quickly scribbled it in - I think if you've explained it and concluded accurately though should be fine. a 'garden' can be quite subjective!

lol i just hope they wont mark me down for that, im expecting full marks for it :biggrin:

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I wrote that swapping labels was appropriation?
I didn't write about shopping basket coz that's not sn issue?

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also, you see the answer booklet had headings, i.e please write your question on section A here, please write your question on section B here etc. i did what it said, however i left out a page between a & b, due to that, im freaking out that the examiner wont see my question b & c bit :frown:

did anyone else do it like me?

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Original post by qr95

I wrote that swapping labels was appropriation?
I didn't write about shopping basket coz that's not sn issue?

i wrote swapping labels were theft. and i dont think you needed to write about the shopping basket, as i had a similar question in a class assessment, and my teacher said you dont. but i still did

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