'Straight white guy festival' causes controversy

Right. Yet, that doesn't change the fact that white history, whiteness in general is celebrated everyday. Which is the point.



It's not a compulsory part of our curriculum. From KS1 to KS3, I was only taught the history of Europe, and had black history once a month every year. By KS4, they scrapped Black History because it wasn't a compulsory part of the curriculum. But if we took up GCSE History, we may have had the opportunity to learn about American & Southern Asia History. But the point stands that the focus is Great Britain. The documentary argument is silly. I am talking about on going dramas that glamorize European History and make it entertaining. Not the odd documentary that is made once a year, that 9/10 exploits the more darker and controversial parts of ethnic culture, like "LadyBoys". That's not celebration.

In the US no it is not. Jog on.

I don't want to get into a big debate about it.

But basically every campaign they take issues that affect both men and women but they portray it as though it only happens to women and that the men are the perpertrators in each case. Feminist organisations are always trying to twist statistics to make it look as though men don't face any problems while women do. When in reality men are either affected equally or more by the issues they are trying to portray as female only. They do also have a lot of political power in the country and have been able to block a lot of attempts at changing laws that discriminate against men. (can't remember which organisation it is that has been doing that atm though).

Heres some examples of the propaganda they use though.

'When did he stop treating you like a princess?'



stuff like that. It's raising awareness of domestic abuse but it ignores that men can be victims as well. It's like that in every campaign for domestic abuse.

http://www.theviolencestopshere.ca/dbtg.php
"Don't be that guy"

Stuff like that. They never release any gender neutral campaigns that focus on helping men AND women. It's always women being the victim and men being the problem. When in reality both men and women can fall victim to these crimes.






I do have A LOT of american friends you know from different parts of the country. I've visited america as well and travelled around with them. just fyi. And I follow the whole feminist movement and anti feminist movements and have done quite a lot of research on them as well as the history because I find it interesting. So my opinion isn't based on just what a couple of my friends have said lol.


But this is getting off the subject of the thread now tbh.

So it's a sympathy contest is it? I also believe you'd only recognize unfairness if it's aimed at a minority group, theres a difference when you only see racism in one fashion, the popularized fashion, rather than a total viewpoint. So noboy can trust what you say. No difference to somebody saying they're against favouritism but can only see it if that favouritism works against one individual, themselves. So people like you can't be trusted on that one because of your consistent double standards, your point was utterly relevant and justifys my point in the middle of this response.

Nobody has made minorities feel ashamed of themselves, nobody.

No they aren't. Men and women in the same position earn the same

Bye now. Can't be bothered to argue with a wall.

What you mean is that you haven't got an answer to being called out on the complete dross you spout.

If you feel like you are being made to feel ashamed because of your race/cultural identity then I can't convince you otherwise, but you have to recognise that legally LGBT/ethnic minorities have been prosecuted against on such a scale that the 'British' you speak of never have and probably never will.

Look around tubby. I am very active in this thread you just don't matter.

Why don't you refute me then if you have an answer. And this is a forum on the internet, not the united nations

You and I both were taught briefly about Egypt & Greece but as I have already pointed out, it's an insignificant part of the curriculum.



Ok and I don't disagree. And?



Our history curriculim is more of an example of "white history month being everyday", rather than white pride. So you have kinda missed the point. White pride is everyday, because white people and whiteness are celebrated in a variety of ways everyday. If you google image beauty, you will see white people mostly. If you see a black person in this search result, they will probably be lightskinned with a weave or they will have stereotypical European facial features because blackness isn't celebrated in the West. Kiss, Capital, Choice & BBC xtra were historically created to celebrate black/urban artists, and now they mostly cater to white artists. Police harass the young black youth, the oppression, the shaming and the degradation is a cause for the need of Pride. But the funniest part is, we don't even have black pride festivals in the UK, so why are you feeling so entitled?




To put it simply. Pride Festivals are for the oppressed, marginalized or unsung minority groups. If you don't get it now, you never will.

I didn't "refute" because all you did was say it is a lie. Then no substantial proof to back your counter. Duh!

Lol, the fact that you put 'opressed'
And 'marginalized' in the same sentence then argued white people should 't have any festivals because they're white loool. You're what you preach...

Goodbye.

lmao that's all you got? A quick Google and a copy paste.

Again

I swear this thread is a breeding ground for stupidity and racism both ways. I literally spent the last 15 minutes reading through this and I honestly cannot believe a Chinese person does not understand Chinese New Year and is trying to make it out to be similar to gay pride? The stupidity is overwhelming.

Anyways, back to the OP.
Sure, white straight males can celebrate their lack of discrimination (that is in comparison to most other groups) if they want, but I don't see why they feel the need to. Prides are supposed to be about opposing negative discrimination (which is why gay pride and black pride are a thing), not celebrating your privilege. It just seems slightly boastful- almost as if you're rubbing the fact that you are literally never discriminated against (excluding Tumblr which everybody knows is full of stupid little girls) in people's faces. It also negates the importance of other prides which are actually necessary. Just my two pence.

Lol, the fact that you put 'opressed'
And 'marginalized' in the same sentence then argued white people should 't have any festivals because they're white loool. You're what you preach...

Goodbye.

Don't run away, no it's not. It's very relevant. And I have American friends as well as experience. Not saying you're not credible but it's just not as credible as someone who lives here. Sorry. I'd never try to state any dogmas about your country.

If you feel it is getting OT ad that is your way of subversively evading the debate then nevermind. But all I can say is, it is a bigger issue and in a democratic country majority rules. It is sickening but that's how it is. No one is vilifying or victimizing anyone. The bigger anything gets more attention because it has more active supporters. There are no active supporters of male abuse and that is the individual's fault not the country mentality or the government. The government here is secondary to the people; if the people don't mention it the government takes no issue. If the people riot and fight for it, the gov concedes. That's just how it is in a democratic country.