LGBT school could open in Manchester

Sorry I live in the real world where people aren't always nice to each other. You're naive.

Sorry but the level of bullying you expressed is definitely abnormal. The harshest thing that happened to me is that i was pushed hardly to the wall in the school corridor. The reason you think the way you do is because you have seen and experienced some terrible things while you were at school and you seem to think that's the real life, while in reality it's not.

There's a difference between being unpleasant towards someone and torturing them. If this happened between adults it would be a serious crime with a custodial sentence.


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Wait where has torture been discussed??

Urinating on people's clothes, tying them up in cupboards.


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His clothes weren't urinated on, and that isn't torture. Being tied up isn't torture either.

Honestly, the tying up one isn't that bad. The lad's on good terms with everybody now. I'm not sure why I picked it as an example, as compared to the first example and other stuff that went on it was tame.

Torture is defined as: "A cause of great mental or physical suffering."

Those repulsive acts would definitely cause mental suffering. If the police had been informed I am sure there would have been a prosecution.

What do you want us to say? "OMG m8 your school sounds so sick!!"

Your school wasn't normal. Just because you were educated around a bunch of sociopaths it doesn't mean it is acceptable or a 'rite of passage' for people.


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Going by that definition pretty much anything can be considered torture. Your football team loses, and you suffer great mental suffering as a result? No, you have not been tortured.

I'm sure the police have more important things to do then spend thousands of pounds and weeks of time prosecuting school bullies.

My school being particularly bad (I'm sure it isn't) doesn't negate the fact that getting your trousers pulled down is not that bad. I had that happen to me loads of times and it wasn't the worst thing to happen to me, and I don't even think I was bullied.

The next time you hear of a gay teenager's suicide, see if you can continue to justify the insignificance of homophobic bullying upon people.


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What i find comical is the people who say that we should mix LGBT people with Straights to teach them how to deal with homophobia and make others understand that gay people are normal. Firstly, religious/Asian people will Never learn to treat LGBT students or people in general as equals, and this is a hard fact because you can't change religions and cultures.

Secondly, IF we will achieve tolerance and equality(Europe, Oceania and North/South America) which i highly doubt we will, then it will take at least 20-30 years. It won't be anytime soon, and LGBT community will need to go through lots of discrimination, this is also a brute fact while afterwards there will still be Homophones just like there are still racists.

Finally, the world is a corrupt place, and those that say we should teach people to accept the minorities are basically saying we should let them be bullied and discriminated because whether you want to see it or not, generally people will NOT like two gays holding hands close them, or kissing each other near them and this is another brute fact. Hell i think that you can get killed in Egypt if you commit homosexual act, i think. Overall, i have no complains about building this school. Other than LGBT students will be easily identified and as i said employers refusing to hire LGBT students, this would be the only discrimination they would be facing, except the norm they are already getting.

Also, a kid's sexual orientation is not always determined from a young age. As one of the first posters said, it would also open many kids to the promiscuity within the homosexual world at a very early age (this might sound horrible and I'm sorry if it does! I'm obviously not homophobic but against the exclusion of students for their orientations, beliefs and so on).

Also, a kid's sexual orientation is not always determined from a young age. As one of the first posters said, it would also open many kids to the promiscuity within the homosexual world at a very early age

A school for LGBT pupils is planned for Manchester.

"This is about saving lives,” said Amelia Lee, strategic director for LGBT Youth North West, the youth work charity behind the plans. “Despite the laws that claim to protect gay people from homophobic bullying, the truth is that in schools especially, bullying is still incredibly common and causes young people to feel isolated and alienated, which often leads to truanting and, in the worst-case scenarios, to suicide.”

"The school will be specifically designed for LGBT young people who are struggling in mainstream schools, but will be open to other children, including young carers, young parents and those with mental health problems. “It will be LGBT-inclusive, but not exclusive,” said Lee."

Is segregating pupils the right solution, or should we be focusing attention on eliminating homophobia from mainstream schools?

This thread is clickbaity bull**** because it implies the proposal is for LGBT people to have their own schools generally.

That is not the proposal, it is to create a single school which will welcome LGBT kids who have struggled in mainstream schools, but will also be open to single mothers and people with mental health issues.

Personally, I think the people proposing this school are about 20 years behind the times. If someone is an ordinary LGBT kid, and given the ever-decreasing levels of homophobia even in schools (I had no problems at school and I was out when I was 15), they'd probably be better off staying in mainstream school than segregating themselves away in a school for people with mental health problems.

Also, this lets the school management off the hook. It's the bullies who should be excluded, not the LGBT kids (if you put it like that, I bet there are some people who are arguing against this who will change their position and argue in favour of it, say "normal" schools shouldn't have to change to accomodate gays).

Funnily enough, in the experience of a few people I know, it was actually the school management / heads who were more homophobic than the students, and they justified their own homophobia with claims about what the students would be like (i.e. "You can't come to the formal with a same-sex partner as you will get bullied" when in fact the students are wholly supportive. Some people are so pathetic if they have to hide behind children to cover their bigotry)

This isn't about saving lives. This is all about identity politics and forcing segregation because that's what followers of identity politics like to do. Feel unnecvessarily victimised and fail to mix.

You're an idiot. You've not read the article, have you?

This school is not for all LGBT people. There won't be a "straight" school where all the heterosexuals go and a "gay" school where all the homosexuals go. You won't declare your sexuality and then get placed at a school. For the final time, this establishment will be for 40 young people who are having such horrific experiences in school that they are going to either drop out of education, or harm themselves unless they receive an alternative provision.

Please read things before posting with such strong views.


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this establishment will be for 40 young people who are having such horrific experiences in school that they are going to either drop out of education, or harm themselves unless they receive an alternative provision.